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Lucas
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 Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:12 pm Post subject: Part time Korean teachers - bye bye EPIK? |
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/11/116_146810.html
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“Teachers are not only required to teach during class hours, but also to guide students in many other ways. If the government pushes for the plan, there will be no difference between schools and hagwon.”
Another high school teacher in Gyeonggi Province said that the part-timer plan is “the worst of the worst” of what he called the government’s poor education policies.
“This is very anti-educational policy which regards teachers the same as factory workers. Teachers work fulltime because we take full responsibility for our students. I doubt that part-time teachers will be willing to be responsible for their students,” he said.
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Ahn Ju-ran, a director of the ministry, said that teachers may have misunderstood the plan, adding that it will not downgrade the quality of teachers.
“We will hire qualified teachers whose tenure will be guaranteed by the government. This is a much better policy than hiring contract teachers,” Ahn said.
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KET get their leg in the door - 2017 EPIK bye bye....! |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| The again, EPIK was always considered a gap filling program that eventually would get shut down when Korean Teachers reached sufficient levels of proficiency in English. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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What Mr. Patrick GHBusan said above. EPIK was never designed to be a permanent plan Nor GEPIK for that matter. Which is why we hear about cuts in job numbers and funding. They didn't plan for the long term because it was never designed for the long term.
That said I still don't see Korea at the stage it needs to be. Sure there is an increasing number of younger Korean teachers who can speak decent English. But the main two problems remain the same as they always were.
(1) They resort primarily to Korean when teaching classes. You can only teach another language in your mother tongue so far and no further. Which means for students that at some point (in order to reach fluency or semi-fluency short of total immersion) they will have to have access to good self-teaching materials or a native speaker of the target language.
(2) Which brings me to my second point, which is on the other side of the equation. The students have to be willing to learn. And for that to happen they have to be shown how English is/will be beneficial to their daily lives. Too many times the English classes with the foreigner are seen (and unconsciously/consciously) encouraged to place fun over learning...and not to be taken too seriously.
And this is a problem with the ministry/administration/teachers throughout the Korean education system. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Part time Korean teachers - bye bye EPIK? |
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| “Teachers are not only required to teach during class hours, but also to guide students in many other ways. If the government pushes for the plan, there will be no difference between schools and hagwon.” |
This is too true. Mothers and students don't care about the well-being of the public school system since those people only care about themselves.
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| Another high school teacher in Gyeonggi Province said that the part-timer plan is “the worst of the worst” of what he called the government’s poor education policies. |
You reap what you sow, Koreans. This is what happens when you only care about political ideologies in public schools. My gyopo sense tells me that something bad will happen to the teachers in this tiny country. |
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lowpo
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| I have worked with two part time teachers at my school for the last 4 years. Their quality of teaching English is very poor in my grade one classes. When I'm in the class room with my part time teacher they feel like they have to translate everything to the kids. |
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maximmm
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: Part time Korean teachers - bye bye EPIK? |
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/11/116_146810.html
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“Teachers are not only required to teach during class hours, but also to guide students in many other ways. If the government pushes for the plan, there will be no difference between schools and hagwon.”
Another high school teacher in Gyeonggi Province said that the part-timer plan is “the worst of the worst” of what he called the government’s poor education policies.
“This is very anti-educational policy which regards teachers the same as factory workers. Teachers work fulltime because we take full responsibility for our students. I doubt that part-time teachers will be willing to be responsible for their students,” he said.
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Ahn Ju-ran, a director of the ministry, said that teachers may have misunderstood the plan, adding that it will not downgrade the quality of teachers.
“We will hire qualified teachers whose tenure will be guaranteed by the government. This is a much better policy than hiring contract teachers,” Ahn said.
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KET get their leg in the door - 2017 EPIK bye bye....! |
I don't get what any of this have to do with EPIK and GEPIK - there are other articles that relate to GEPIK budget cuts and this article is not it.
In fact, this article has more to do with government plans to hire more part time Korean teachers - something that will likely lead to displacement of tenured public school teaching positions with substantially cheaper and less secure part time teacher positions in the future.
This is an increasingly common trend all over the world, especially at the university level - with tenured professorships being offered less and less, while contract based positions being the new standard.
We at the apologist brotherhood fully support these changes. We believe that teachers in general are freeloaders who benefit the most from being public employees by being offered long vacations, very short work hours and stable jobs.
While we have always known that foreigners found in Korea are absolute losers (unless married to Korean), who do more harm than good to the pure Korean society, our new position is such that not only should foreigners be banished from pure Korean lands, but all Korean teachers should be stripped of their tenured positions and hired on part time basis - as their punishment for tolerating foreigners for so long!
If you support our views and positions, please send your applications to PatrickBusan and SteelRails, the leaders of apologist brotherhood movement.
Please note that we are also currently looking for volunteers who would be willing to spend this winter in Dokdo, to protect it against the the potential invaders from the vile Japan. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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While that was pretty funny Maxim, I do not see anyone saying FTs are freeloaders or something to get rid of. My position has never been that FTs are "losers" nor did I ever buy into that stupid crap aboput pure korean society. You however seem to love making that "joke" and you know what they say about jokes right Maxim? At the core of every joke, there is a bit of truth or a bit of something one really believes....
The point is that the program was there to fill a void until that void could be filled by local teachers. This is standard policy for most countries when dealing with foreign labor, if at any point citizens of a country can be found to do the job that Foreign workers are doing, said workers will be replaced. Priority for jobs will always be given to citizens if at all possible.
I agree with you that the trend seems to be towards contractual workers as opposed to permanent ones in the field of education. This can be seen in schools here (Canada) too. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Part time teachers with obscure educational values? In public schools? Now these together become a nice way to bring down the whole system. The Gyochong (the Korean Federation of Teachers' Association, or the ONLY official labor union for public school teachers in Worst Korea) proposed and implemented this. It's their fault.
ETC) for the reference the Korean Teachers' Union (Jeongyogo) was just outlawed because of their anti-American ideology.  |
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