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Why are female teachers so in demand for adult Biz classes?
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rollo



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change Korea??????? Wow we got a live one. So your contract states that part of your duties are to change korea???

Good Luck! The term "Green as a gourd" comes to mind.
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alongway



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rollo wrote:
Change Korea??????? Wow we got a live one. So your contract states that part of your duties are to change korea???

Good Luck! The term "Green as a gourd" comes to mind.


*woosh*
The point was that you can't really complain about things if the tools exist to enact change but no one wants to pick them up.

A:My hair is getting pretty long.. god I hate long hair
B: There are a pair of scissors on the table
A: *long sigh* Yeah.. it's just so long. What are you to do? Man I hate long hair.
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El Bandito



Joined: 07 Oct 2013

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rollo wrote:
Change Korea??????? Wow we got a live one. So your contract states that part of your duties are to change korea???

Good Luck! The term "Green as a gourd" comes to mind.


Yeah. Wants to criticize others for not doing anything when we know if we do do something nothing will happen, but doesn't want to take his chances/use his time to attempt the "change" that he believes is possible.
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the love birds trying to change the subject. Most Koreans in power who have been abroad know that change is inevitable and are prepared for it. The Koreans who haven't left the country have a mind set not so far of North Korea. It's going to happen, but it's going to be long and drawn out.

But to answer the OP question. Every business meeting I've been to ends up in a norebang. If you're in business and had kimchi weekend for 5 years and used to getting kimchi regardless if kimchi is on sale or not, maybe now you want a bagel, or a crosspoint, or a salmon sandwich, just a little something different.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Why are female teachers so in demand for adult Biz class Reply with quote

engrishprease wrote:
Anyone here have any idea why most adult Business English gigs specifically ask for female teachers?

Are female teachers inherently better than male teachers when it comes to teaching adults?

Firstly, most CEOs and high to mid level business workers in Korea are female. They prefer to be taught by someone of the same gender, someone who can better relate to them.

Next, females are more likely than males to have majored in business and economics fields than males. Females are therefore more likely to know the business term the business people in Korea will need to know for the advancement of their career. Have you heard the stats about how females are better than males at math and business? It therefore makes sense females would be strongly preferred over males in a business instruction setting.
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alongway



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El Bandito wrote:
rollo wrote:
Change Korea??????? Wow we got a live one. So your contract states that part of your duties are to change korea???

Good Luck! The term "Green as a gourd" comes to mind.


Yeah. Wants to criticize others for not doing anything when we know if we do do something nothing will happen, but doesn't want to take his chances/use his time to attempt the "change" that he believes is possible.


Nothing will change for foreigners? really? Are you saying every single aspect of expat life is identical to how it was 10 years ago?
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adjusted for inflation wages (and our wages compared to what the typical Korean makes) went way down in the past ten years. Working hours went up (with no additional compensation). Vacation time decreased. University jobs became much harder to get into. The public perception of Western English teachers changed within the past ten years too, and not for the better. K-girls are less interested in Westerners compared to before. Now, we are considered "losers back home"- (with our low wages) the opposite of a status symbol.
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alongway



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
Adjusted for inflation wages (and our wages compared to what the typical Korean makes) went way down in the past ten years. Working hours went up (with no additional compensation). Vacation time decreased. University jobs became much harder to get into. The public perception of Western English teachers changed within the past ten years too, and not for the better. K-girls are less interested in Westerners compared to before. Now, we are considered "losers back home"- (with our low wages) the opposite of a status symbol.


That's funny.
It's also easier for foreigners to get cell phones and other service. It's easier for foreigners to get a resident visa than before, it's easier (and possible) for foreigners to obtain dual citizenship if they plan on being here the long haul.

It's easier for foreigners to get credit cards, it's easier for foreigners to complain to the government when they do encounter problems, and get results.

I was unaware that 100% of expat life in Korea revolved around white english hagwon teachers. My mistake.

Maybe K-girls are less interested in you, I can't see why, what with that optimistic and winning personality.

As far as public perception goes, for most Koreans english teachers are a blip on the radar until one does something epically stupid.
There is no real evidence that public perception has drastically altered.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Why are female teachers so in demand for adult Biz class Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:

most CEOs and high to mid level business workers in Korea are female.


Are you serious?
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EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sendittheemail wrote:
I had a female coworker call me in a panic, crying, from a bathroom in some crappy restaurant in Seoul. She'd accepted an invitation from a business student to go out to dinner, and after dinner/drinks, he was trying to drag her to a motel. Why she accepted the invitation in the first place, is beyond me. Perhaps newbie naivete?

Anyway, after the businessmen creep out/assault/otherwise offend their female teacher, and she rebuffs them, the recruiter is usually asked to supply another female, hence the steady demand.


The business student and businessmen had to have been foreign men. I know this, because I read "Ode to Expat Philanderers" in The Korea Times.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:17 am    Post subject: Re: Why are female teachers so in demand for adult Biz class Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
Are you serious?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqoD70fpt7Q
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: Why are female teachers so in demand for adult Biz class Reply with quote

engrishprease wrote:
Anyone here have any idea why most adult Business English gigs specifically ask for female teachers?

Are female teachers inherently better than male teachers when it comes to teaching adults? Or are the students after something else besides improving their Engrish?

Would be great to hear from female teachers who have previously taught Business English to CEOs and adult students in general.


Let me give you a visual explanation.

( . )( . )


Any questions?
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maximmm



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Why are female teachers so in demand for adult Biz class Reply with quote

Troglodyte wrote:
engrishprease wrote:
Anyone here have any idea why most adult Business English gigs specifically ask for female teachers?

Are female teachers inherently better than male teachers when it comes to teaching adults? Or are the students after something else besides improving their Engrish?

Would be great to hear from female teachers who have previously taught Business English to CEOs and adult students in general.


Let me give you a visual explanation.

( . )( . )


Any questions?


As I understand it, female teachers are by nature more nurturing than male teachers, and business executives require to be nurtured due to their fragile states of mind.
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RangerMcGreggor



Joined: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, there is a social stigma when male and females meet for "foreign language exchange" or something similar as it is often regarded as a cover for hookups and dating
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I had a unpublished offer for a adult job in Gangnam with some weird qualifications, and I had all of them, but they wanted a girl. No way in hell did they find a girl with those qualifiactions, but lo and behold, they wanted a girl. So, I didnt get the job
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