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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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 Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| As I've repeatedly said, Koreans can generally sniff out those who have spent time overseas or are of other Asian descent, just by how they walk and how they carry themselves. |
Hilarious. Some sort of sixth sense. What a joke. |
Nope, I'm going to back this up - but it's not just koreans.
I can often do the same thing - "tell a kyopo from a distance"
Clothing, hair, mannerisms, etc… they often stand out. And that's before they speak.
So I'm with SR on that one. |
The 'ability' to do that is beside the point. |
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nate1983
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| cabeza wrote: |
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| cabeza wrote: |
| nate1983 wrote: |
| aq8knyus wrote: |
Racism also comes in many forms, every time a white female is asked "Are you Russian?", that is racism.
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Whaaaat?
Is it racism if I (a white guy) am asked if I'm American? |
Because it's basically someone asking to have sex for money. . |
So racism=asking someone to have sex for money?
More to the point "Russian" is a nationality not a race. |
No. It's assuming that is someone a prostitute based upon their skin colour. And the original statement said "white females".
Your post was useful TUM because now all doubt I had about you being an argumentative cock has been removed. If the same argument was used against Koreans you would have been in here like a shot crying racism. |
No because Koreans are not a race. Nor for that matter are white females. And every "are you a Russian?" question is not necessarily a lead-into sex.
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Yeah, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard, and cabeza's insinuation about Russians is beyond offensive and actually gets me pretty worked up - particularly as I have Russian (female) friends. If the first thing that he associates Russian females with is prostitution, he's the one who needs to be checked for racism.
Asking if someone's Russian = asking to have sex for money?  Only in the world of cabeza. I'm generally a pretty mild-mannered person, but it would take some self control to restrain myself if you insinuated that in front of one of my friends. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| byrddogs wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| As I've repeatedly said, Koreans can generally sniff out those who have spent time overseas or are of other Asian descent, just by how they walk and how they carry themselves. |
Hilarious. Some sort of sixth sense. What a joke. |
Nope, I'm going to back this up - but it's not just koreans.
I can often do the same thing - "tell a kyopo from a distance"
Clothing, hair, mannerisms, etc… they often stand out. And that's before they speak.
So I'm with SR on that one.
SR, one thing I disagree strongly with is your apparent denial of racial C-blocking. I've had buds come visit me from back home, and go clubbing here - and this is a common complaint - even from people who know little/nothing about this place.
It certainly isn't made up. |
It happens, but just my experience is that a lot of times what is perceived as c-blocking is really just don't hit on my girlfriend/your too drunk/leave us alone/no we don't think you're special just because you are from America.
I mean, I've been the sole person of Asian descent in a group of NETs and we've "blocked" Korean guys. Most of the time it was because they were drunk and "overfriendly" a couple of times it was sorta racial in that we didn't want to do the whole Korean routine that night and just enjoy ourselves and speak natural English and so on.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but a lot of times you take alcohol plus an "Asia is my playground" mindset and well, you get misinterpretations of incidents, just like some drunk Korean guy gets it in his head that the foreigners and some blonde girl is there to entertain him and fulfill his fantasies and the dudes who told him to piss off were jerkoff foreigners.
It generally doesn't happen much in the stix. I'd have to go with Cali Gyopos for the worst offenders. |
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Jodami
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Back on topic:
Yes, a lot of Koreans are totally racist against white people.
Yes, a large percentage of Koreans absolutely despise white people.
Anyone who even needs to ask the question is a total apologist. Koreans feel inferior to white people, hence all of the aggression/discrimination/racism shown to white people.
Since I left Korea, I tell every single person who asks me, to avoid Korea as it's full of white hating racist locals. 
Being Japan's/the Western world's bitch, is no excuse for Koreans to behave in such a way, is it?
 
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| Jodami wrote: |
Back on topic:
Yes, a lot of Koreans are totally racist against white people.
Yes, a large percentage of Koreans absolutely despise white people.
Anyone who even needs to ask the question is a total apologist. Koreans feel inferior to white people, hence all of the aggression/discrimination/racism shown to white people.
Since I left Korea, I tell every single person who asks me, to avoid Korea as it's full of white hating racist locals.
Being Japan/the Western world's bitch, is no excuse for Koreans to behave in such a way, is it?
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Well, you're right about someone being racist, at least. |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| byrddogs wrote: |
| Hilarious. Some sort of sixth sense. What a joke. |
It must be a very weak 6th sense. I've worked with two Koreans who passed themselves off as North American and the parents bought it. One pretended to be Canadian. She even had me fooled, because her accent was very neutral. She had everyone else fooled too. I was the only other teacher of any nationality on the teaching staff who knew she was actually Korean, and only because she told me. She told me not to tell anyone because she was able to earn more money if the parents thought she was Canadian. Her accent and grammar were better than mine, so I didn't see why anyone cared, but I definitely didn't tell anyone.
Another Korean teacher at a different hagwon pretended to be American. I didn't realize he was being advertised to the parents as American until one of the dads who I became friends with referred to the teacher as "American." Thinking back to the other teacher, I didn't say anything since the Korean teacher was a really good guy and I didn't want to mess anything up for him. He had a very heavy Korean accent with common grammar mistakes, so I'm a little surprised the parents couldn't sniff that one out, because he was pretty obvious. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| Jodami wrote: |
Back on topic:
Yes, a lot of Koreans are totally racist against white people.
Yes, a large percentage of Koreans absolutely despise white people.
Anyone who even needs to ask the question is a total apologist. Koreans feel inferior to white people, hence all of the aggression/discrimination/racism shown to white people. |
That is true on one level, but at the same time I've seen westerners behaving in the same offhand way to foreigners in the west.
A lone and vaguely helpless outsider warrants less credibility and respect than a fully functioning member of society. Its human nature, and you will see the same process in any country on earth.
Also a lot of it depends on your disposition. If you're feeling upbeat you'll find Koreans react more positively to you. |
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maitaidads
Joined: 08 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreans can definitely be shitheads to white people, but imagine if a group of foreigners held in relatively high esteem flooded your country. If French people were suddenly every in America, making decent money for a super-easy job and women were into them, obviously the locals would take a stand. Italians, Sudanese, Japanese- same thing. BUT- hopefully we could admit it exists and not act as if the situation in every club/bar across the world were identical. |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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I don't personally care about bars and clubs since I don't go to them, but the thing that frustrated me a while back was getting turned away by doctors for being non-Korean.
I needed to see a dermatologist for a small patch of eczema or dermatitis, and although there are family doctors where I live, the closest area for specialists is the area around Seohyun station in Bundang. The first dermatology clinic I noticed was one called Zonskin. I went in and the front desk personnel were acting strange, which raised a red flag already. When I saw the doctor, he told me in perfect English that they treat only Koreans there and I should find a different dermatologist. I don't know if they expected me to pay for the consultation or not, but I strolled out without paying since the dermatologist didn't provide a service, and I went looking for another dermatologist.
I soon noticed another 피부과 sign in the area and went inside. The second clinic was Lamar Dermatology, but I got the same run around there. The doctor came and spoke with me briefly at the desk. Her English was good too, so I thought it was so strange they couldn't provide dermatology service. It's not like my skin is that much different from the skin of Koreans.
I went to a third dermatology clinic, this time at Yonsei Mi Skin Care. The doctor actually gave some semblance of a legitimate consultation, but even she didn't examine the area in question. She prescribed some medicine and sent me on my way. I don't think this was necessarily based on race. I think she was probably just unprofessional and incompetent. The same thing happened at Pure Skin Green Clinic in Seoul. It's unreal how many dermatologists in South Korea either turn away non-Koreans or make diagnoses off a conversation without even looking at the skin.
Anyway, I went to Asan Medical Center and saw a dermatologist there and received appropriate medical care. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, EZE, I'm not sure if you've got bad luck, or I've got good luck.
I've had a couple of moles removed at a few clinics. Never once was my pale skin an issue to them.
Not taking away your account, mate. But, wow… kind of blown away hat it happened to ya a few times. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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SR, one thing I disagree strongly with is your apparent denial of racial C-blocking. I've had buds come visit me from back home, and go clubbing here - and this is a common complaint - even from people who know little/nothing about this place.
It certainly isn't made up. |
No, no, no.
Your friends are clearly mistaken, as am I and everyone else who has noticed those same things here. They went to the clubs here, and all witnessed a series of illusions and mistaken interpretations.
There is absolutely NO RACIAL COMPONENT going on at the clubs or anywhere else in Korea: white people and others are always treated EXACTLY the SAME as Koreans, and who better to know this than Steelrails, a non-white person who lives way out in the sticks, and who is also ethnically Korean?
Clearly, he's the authority here on what's going on with races other than his own in Korea and everywhere else, and they should defer to his expert judgement. He and his friends set the standard of clubbing experiences, and whatever they do is certainly what every other group must be doing the world over.
Koreans don't even SEE race. There is NO sense of group identity or TEAM mentality. We've been all wrong all along. And every place in the world is exactly the same.
Nothing to see here. These aren't the droids you are looking for. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| nate1983 wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| cabeza wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| cabeza wrote: |
| nate1983 wrote: |
| aq8knyus wrote: |
Racism also comes in many forms, every time a white female is asked "Are you Russian?", that is racism.
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Whaaaat?
Is it racism if I (a white guy) am asked if I'm American? |
Because it's basically someone asking to have sex for money. . |
So racism=asking someone to have sex for money?
More to the point "Russian" is a nationality not a race. |
No. It's assuming that is someone a prostitute based upon their skin colour. And the original statement said "white females".
Your post was useful TUM because now all doubt I had about you being an argumentative cock has been removed. If the same argument was used against Koreans you would have been in here like a shot crying racism. |
No because Koreans are not a race. Nor for that matter are white females. And every "are you a Russian?" question is not necessarily a lead-into sex.
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Yeah, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard, and cabeza's insinuation about Russians is beyond offensive and actually gets me pretty worked up - particularly as I have Russian (female) friends. If the first thing that he associates Russian females with is prostitution, he's the one who needs to be checked for racism.
Asking if someone's Russian = asking to have sex for money? Only in the world of cabeza. I'm generally a pretty mild-mannered person, but it would take some self control to restrain myself if you insinuated that in front of one of my friends. |
Then you probably would have been fuming mad at the drunk Korean adjossi who asked my blonde coworker if she was Russian AND how much it would cost him. Then, when she said she wasn't Russian, the guy got all miffed and tried to kick her. Now THAT took quite a bit of restraining, but we held him back and let him stumble off.
The fact is that a significant number of Korean men DO link Russian women with prostitution. I worked in Yeoido occasionally few years ago, and that downtown area is a network of "business" clubs and prostitution areas, and it was common to see Russian-looking women in "business" attire around there. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| It's pretty easy to spot Korean Americans. The dudes pretty much all have the same haircut and dress the same way. The girls dress American and usually weigh a little more. |
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