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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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 Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
Wow, EZE, I'm not sure if you've got bad luck, or I've got good luck.
I've had a couple of moles removed at a few clinics. Never once was my pale skin an issue to them.
Not taking away your account, mate. But, wow… kind of blown away hat it happened to ya a few times. |
I only got turned away twice. It's kind of funny that the dermatology clinics turned me away, but the proctology clinics haven't. I could've sympathized had it been the proctologists.  And for the record, it wasn't those swirlypole joints with "dermatology" and hearts on their pole. These were what very much appeared to be legitimate clinics with real doctors. |
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Jodami
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
But you'll of course continue to comment constantly on Koreans, their motivations, their experiences, and their actions as though you are an authority.
Cheers to double standards while griping about double standards!  |
Lighten up fella. I'm well within my rights to stomp on Koreans with my size 11 steel (pardon the pun) toecap boots.
This is a thread about racist Koreans treating whites like garbage. Btw, it's a fact not an opinion. The most galling thing is that they try to deny it, which makes the vast majority of them, total and utter liars, as well as complete racists!  |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| maitaidads wrote: |
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| maitaidads wrote: |
| imagine if a group of foreigners held in relatively high esteem flooded your country.... the locals would take a stand. |
Definitely true outside of big cosmopolitan cities.
e.g., the UK reaction to the influx of eastern Europeans. |
Koreans have flooded the US in numbers far more vast than Americans have gone to Korea. I don't think most Americans care that much. |
That's true- they don't. Part of it is that they're not seen as much of a threat. I was talking about a theoretical where a sudden influx of "playboy" foreigners moved into an area. Immigrants are often decried for taking jobs, but in the US I've never heard the locals expressing concern that foreign workers are going to take their women like they do in Korea. |
There is no country that welcomes groups of "playboy" foreigners with delusions of grandeur.
Thais treat sex tourists with the same contempt as Koreans treat unskilled hormone-driven Canadians here to proclaim their magnificence to Asian womanhood.
Russia is also guarded about having busloads of sub-standard western males arriving to buy brides who are desperate to escape poverty. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
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SR, one thing I disagree strongly with is your apparent denial of racial C-blocking. I've had buds come visit me from back home, and go clubbing here - and this is a common complaint - even from people who know little/nothing about this place.
It certainly isn't made up. |
No, no, no.
Your friends are clearly mistaken, as am I and everyone else who has noticed those same things here. They went to the clubs here, and all witnessed a series of illusions and mistaken interpretations.
There is absolutely NO RACIAL COMPONENT going on at the clubs or anywhere else in Korea: white people and others are always treated EXACTLY the SAME as Koreans, and who better to know this than Steelrails, a non-white person who lives way out in the sticks, and who is also ethnically Korean?
Clearly, he's the authority here on what's going on with races other than his own in Korea and everywhere else, and they should defer to his expert judgement. He and his friends set the standard of clubbing experiences, and whatever they do is certainly what every other group must be doing the world over.
Koreans don't even SEE race. There is NO sense of group identity or TEAM mentality. We've been all wrong all along. And every place in the world is exactly the same.
Nothing to see here. These aren't the droids you are looking for. |
I'm not saying there aren't elements of what you're saying. I'm just saying you might be misinterpreting them or refusing to consider other possibilities. Maybe there is something in your mannerisms that bothers people. That and somethings just happen in clubs period around the world.
What you think back home dudes would be cool if you started hitting on their girlfriend or just sitting down at some random table and trying to join in with a bunch of strangers? Especially some dude whos gonna come over and expect everyone to start paying attention to him.
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It's funny how you pull up this one scenario every time as if it's default behavior or something. More proof you have no idea what you're talking about here.
There was a thread a while back on the funny stuff that goes on in clubs, but it got deleted. I guess because it was way too truthful.
And then the constant excuses and blame shifting: it's either my fault, misinterpretations, or... "Cali kyopos". Yes, it can be anything EXCEPT actual local Koreans behaving a certain way, correct? You'll conjure up anything to steer away from that every time, eh Steer rails?
And you try to claim you're not on the TEAM? You're one of the hardest working TEAM members out there. They should be paying you at this point for the PR you try to do.
Now, can someone start a thread called "Do kyopos experience any discrimination in Korea?"
I'd like to get on there to "call them out" and correct them on how wrong and mistaken they are about their own experiences with the Korean locals. I think that as a non-kyopo, I'm in a much better position to tell them about their own experiences and how they should be interpreting them. I'd also like to tell them that whatever they did experience, it's probably all their own fault somehow. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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If there is a Team Korea, is there a Team White?
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And then the constant excuses and blame shifting: it's either my fault, misinterpretations, or... "Cali kyopos". Yes, it can be anything EXCEPT actual local Koreans behaving a certain way, correct? You'll conjure up anything to steer away from that every time, eh Steer rails? |
Sometimes its racism. Sometimes its other reasons. Sometimes people misinterpret things.
Maybe the reason you were pulled over and arrested wasn't because of your skin color, but because you were doing 70 in a 45 and had a bag of coke and an unregistered firearm. Maybe that fight at the bar wasn't because of your race, but because you or he was belligerent drunk and you stepped on his toe or he stepped on yours.
If you see some Koreans fighting a white guy, do you assume a racial component? Now if you see some white guys and say, some Nigerians, are you going to assume a racial component?
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| I'd like to get on there to "call them out" and correct them on how wrong and mistaken they are about their own experiences with the Korean locals. I think that as a non-kyopo, I'm in a much better position to tell them about their own experiences and how they should be interpreting them. I'd also like to tell them that whatever they did experience, it's probably all their own fault somehow. |
I'd welcome your input. If you have anything to say, share it. Depending on how well you articulate your points, the evidence you give to support them, and your reasoning behind them, you may or may not contribute something meaningful.
I won't say "because you're white/black/Muslim" that your opinions are invalid or that you won't have any good insights. |
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maitaidads
Joined: 08 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
If there is a Team Korea, is there a Team White?
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No, but I think there is a Team USA, a Team Ireland, etc. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
I'd welcome your input. If you have anything to say, share it. Depending on how well you articulate your points, the evidence you give to support them, and your reasoning behind them, you may or may not contribute something meaningful.
I won't say "because you're white/black/Muslim" that your opinions are invalid or that you won't have any good insights. |
Look, if it's a debate on race, feel free to raise the issue of the race of the speaker because on that topic it certainly can matter, even if it doesn't make the contribution invalid. And now suddenly you're the judge on what contributions are "meaningful" here? Nice try, especially considering your stream of conscious ranting on here.
I've said the same thing several times in different ways and it doesn't sink in.
I never said your opinions are completely "invalid"... but on this issue (what whites experience in Korea), your opinion on what actually happens is almost certainly less accurate than an actual white person experienced, yet you come on here like you are the authority on the matter, and tell them that they are probably mistaken or that it's likely their fault. That's BS because:
1) You weren't there
2) You aren't the same race/color and therefore don't KNOW exactly what those people go through in a given situation, but you try to suggest somehow you know better than they do what's going on.
That's where you go too far and that's what needs to be "called out" as BS. If a white guy went on a thread about kyopo experiences, and tried to blame them all and tell them their interpretations and experiences are way off, and that he knows what's going on about their experiences better than they do, nobody would stand for it and would rightly see that as complete BS. Do you get that? Probably not... |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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I think it was fair game for me to chime in when people started talking not just about personal experiences, but making absolute sweeping statements regarding Korea, its systems, and its people.
Sorry, but if someone says something like "Korean law exists to serve Korean males period." or "Foreigners will NEVER get blood money".
Just because a white person will never know the racism a black person has experienced, doesn't mean they can't look at some rantings and complaints of racism by a black person and at least offer alternative explanations. "You know, you might have gotten pulled over because you were doing 70 in a 45." "I think anyone in that situation might start a fight with you, not just because of your skin" "Maybe they're asking for your address because its standard policy, not because you are black" The answer to those statements is NOT "You're white, so you don't know." |
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Jodami
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Really, there's not much point in continuing to respond to SR's posts.
He's a proven white hater (biting the hand that fed him) - simply through his all too often, little Korean Apologist dissertations.
The guy has tried to deflect from the crux of this thread - that is, many Koreans hate whites, are totally racist against whites, then lie through their teeth when called on it!! He tries to deflect by blabbering about Blacks, Muslims, Japanese, Chinese, SE Asians, etc, etc.
He's one tedious and relentless little toad, I'll give him that.  |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| Chaparrastique wrote: |
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Steel does tend to post Illyad/Odyssey lenght rambles on here |
Isn't that what "Homer" does? |
Indeed he does. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
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| While Steel does tend to post Illyad/Odyssey lenght rambles on here, he does get "accused" of being a gyopo quite often and that is a disturbing trend on this site. |
He is guilty as charged. As already mentioned, SR is not white, therefore he should keep his big gyopo nose out of this thread. 
Likewise, us whities will keep out of any threads - where world authorities, on what it's like to be a gyopo in Korea, are needed.
Fook you very much. |
But you'll of course continue to comment constantly on Koreans, their motivations, their experiences, and their actions as though you are an authority.
Cheers to double standards while griping about double standards! |
So a quadrupule standard then? wow, impressive! |
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