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southside
Joined: 06 Oct 2013
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 Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:30 pm Post subject: Mokdong Immigration has ruined my Life. They don't care! |
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Lived in Korea, for almost 6 years, working as a teacher mostly, and living with my fiancee, hope to be married soon. Backed up in bills, behing on rent, I got denied my work visa, because of a technicality on my fbi. I had a mark on it for 22 years ago which was dropped, but still on the fbi, I go to the immigration in Mokdong, first they said no sorry you can't work in korea any more. So I go another day, this time with a Korean with me, the robot worker was rude, but she said I need this paper and this other paper, but,"she said" there is a chance we can deny you. I go back do all the information she tells me, then I bring a Avalon staff person their with me to help my case.
We went to the window, then I gave her my fbi and she ask me what happpen I told her," the robot immigration worker, it was dropped, and I was cleared of all charges. She still told us that they have a right to deny me, or give me a visa. So we paid the 130,000 won for the process of the e2 visa application, which is crazy then we go back and the robot immigration officer says again " we will call you".
I was thinking, that they would give me my work visa, but sad and miserable to say, they denied me. This was last friday, they called me yesterday, and I went there, for them to give me a paper that said," Denied for and extention which I was a little shocked"
I told her, how can I leave with out any money for a ticket, and what are me and my finacee going to do now?? We are [Mod Edit], they [Mod Edit] us" Now I have to leave, by feb 8, and how do I leave with no money, my whole life is here in korea, and with my finacee, wtf!!! Mokdong immigration don't care , they have no heart.
Im here saying this because I don't know what to do now?
anyone wth any suggestions!!
I need help.
I know i can get an expunged from my record but I have to go back to do it
Can the american embassy help, which I doubt
Can get another kind of visa, besides teaching??. |
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tardisrider
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| If you can get the record expunged, why didn't you do so long ago? |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Mokdong Immigration has ruined my Life. They don't care! |
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| southside wrote: |
Im here saying this because I don't know what to do now?
anyone wth any suggestions!!
I need help. |
Marry your fiancee and switch to an F-6 visa? Or is she not a Korean? |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Go back, get the record expunged...then re-apply. Preferably after a year or so when that particular immigration officer is no longer there.
Or marry your (Korean?) fiancé and get an F visa. |
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southside
Joined: 06 Oct 2013
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| the reason why I didnt do the expunge is because, I didnt know you could do that on a fbi, and 5 years ago, the korean immigration didnt ask for fbi just crc check state check, yes she is korean, I have asked here alot about marriage and she says, she dont want to get married just for me, getting a f6 visa, so I said ok, what can I do. Ive been with her 5 years. |
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bobranger
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
Location: masan
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Your situation is difficult and I empathize with you but realize immigration did not ruin your life. They have rules that are not for debate. It is time to move on. You are forty years old and in debt. Put on your big boy pants and get on with life. You can do it! |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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You certain have quite a flare in your writing.
| southside wrote: |
It seems all the time that most of the Korean companies and Hagwons can't pay their employees on time. Is this the Korean norm of slave labor to foriegners who work for hagwons??? They tell you the payment is on this certain day of every month, but when the payment day is near they tend to make any excuse to pay late.
In America or anywhere else, this is a violation of civil rights, but here in Korea, it's normal, I have to ask, why are Koreans so stubborn when it comes to payment too foriegn teachers, we literally have to say "When am I going to get paid", to me it seems no higher authority can't do or say anything to hagwon owners. The are no diffrent than North Korean Dictator, Kim Jung Un"
If all the foriegner here in Korea banded together and fought about this major problem, things would change. Is there anyone out there feels the way I feel!! |
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Jodami
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Can't blame your fiancee for not wanting to marry you. Slightly balding, a bigger gut than Santa Claus, and being a middle aged man in debt. Hardly a prime catch, are you?
Oh, and don't think that by wearing a three piece suit, singing Old Macdonald when you teach at your kindy job, is gonna continue to cut it. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| bobranger wrote: |
| Your situation is difficult and I empathize with you but realize immigration did not ruin your life. |
I also empathize, I am someone who hates (hates) officialdom or dealing with government agencies in any way.
Petty officials, their red tape and the disproportionate power they have to completely disrupt and sabotage someones life on a whim or for a stamp or piece of paper that essentially is irrelevant, has had a negative impact on my plans in the past. Even filling in application forms is enough to stress me out so much that I take days or weeks to do them rather than minutes. Going into an immigration building puts me into a cold sweat.
The fact is they might be having a bad day and decide some minor point against you that will massively inconvenience you or force you to pay a heavy price in terms of time, lost jobs or whatever.
It wouldn't even be so bad if the rules were clear and set in stone. But often they're not: the regulations are vague and open to differing interpretation by individual officers. Not only that, they regularly change like the wind. |
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judoka
Joined: 30 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| You've been working in Korea for almost 6 years and you don't have enough money for a flight back home and in debt? WTF! |
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Reset
Joined: 06 Jul 2011
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree with the above poster. If you don't have enough money to get home there's something not right. This also explains why your girlfriend doesn't want to marry you. You need to get your act together. Be responsible. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| tardisrider wrote: |
| If you can get the record expunged, why didn't you do so long ago? |
Although I was a "boring model citizen" as a teenager, I had never actually seen my FBI criminal record check until I had to get one for an E-2 a few years back. Not really saying it's okay to not know what your FBI rap sheet is, just saying I can see how it could happen.
What I find odd is how this is coming about now, the CRC element has been in place for quite some time now.
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As much as I hate to take a bureaucratic office's side on this matter, it's not really one of immigration's duties to expressly facilitate the maintenance of southside's relationship with his fiancee. Sad story and I empathize but yeah... |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| judoka wrote: |
| You've been working in Korea for almost 6 years and you don't have enough money for a flight back home and in debt? WTF! |
He might have been giving his money to her and she pays the bills, but gives him pocket change to pay the robots. Hard telling, but it's going to be really hard to get any sympathy from anyone since the FBI background has been been required for like going on 3 years now.
Maybe she doesn't want to get married right now since they don't have the money to do it properly (wedding hall, banquet room, and fancy stuff) for her family and friends to see? Part of the story is missing, because it's probably too personal. If you really have to repatriate with no funds and no possible way to get any outside of doing something illegal, then the Dept. of State does repatriation loans, but it's got to be the most sucky situation since you'd be going to a rough job market after being gone over 6 years with no cheap rooms for rent and then you'd owe money to get your passport and international travel privileges restored. |
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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If you're broke try and get your pension refunded in bulk....Also, would you mind telling us what your conviction was for 22 years ago? If it's a minor offense, yeah Korean immigration can totally be dicks, but if it was more serious they might be justified. But it was a very long time ago, and if you've had no convictions since then...
Anyway, good luck getting things worked out. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Scorpion wrote: |
| would you mind telling us what your conviction was for 22 years ago? |
It wasn't a conviction, the charges were dropped.
But that is enough to spook Korean immigration.
Even if you have a misdemeanour offence such as public drunkeness, the absurdity is that its often something that is overlooked in korea. Western police are tough, they penalize people for slight infractions that are regarded as normal daily events in Korea.
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| it's going to be really hard to get any sympathy from anyone since the FBI background has been been required for like going on 3 years now. |
Perhaps he was formerly married to someone else, on an F-visa.
Perhaps he wasn't asked for a CBC yet because he didn't change jobs.
Visa req.s are a broad brush that do not take account of individual situations. |
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