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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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 Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:42 am Post subject: Evaluations for public school teachers |
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| Do you guys working in public school get evaluations from colleagues and students? |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Thats standard. Co-teachers, administration, students, & parents all fill out opinion surveys.
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
| Thats standard. Co-teachers, administration, students, & parents all get input. |
Yeah, it was like that when I worked in country years ago. I was curious if it still is. I'm at an out of country school these days. We got our evaluations today and the principal took the time to go through them with each NET. That was nice. How about there; anyone explaining it? |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| That would be rare. You'd have to have a very solid & open connection with your co-t to be privy to that stuff. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| I've seen the vice principal's evaluation (which was actually written by my co-teacher) and the student evaluations. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| They post everything on the NIES system. Even the comments they make and the happy face squilly marks and all (if possible from the character map). However, it seems that only a small % of ct's actually get around to making an NIES account for their NET. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:49 am Post subject: |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:14 am Post subject: |
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National Education Information System. The other poster transposed two of the initials.
As with so many other things connected with computer-based services and foreigners in South Korea, my experience with the system is that it simply does not work for those who have an ARC number. Why didn't it work? Because the ARC number doesn't fit the verification matrix for identification numbers. Yep, said matrix is set up only to accept KNID numbers. Maybe that's changed in the last two years, but I wouldn't bet the farm on that. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
National Education Information System. The other poster transposed two of the initials.
As with so many other things connected with computer-based services and foreigners in South Korea, my experience with the system is that it simply does not work for those who have an ARC number. Why didn't it work? Because the ARC number doesn't fit the verification matrix for identification numbers. Yep, said matrix is set up only to accept KNID numbers. Maybe that's changed in the last two years, but I wouldn't bet the farm on that. |
Yes, it's NEIS...
Anyways, my CT signed me up, but it was a hassle and took about a 10 days for some remote office to figure it out. And it even had a detailed breakdown of only 1 month of my pay. I'm not sure if Korean teachers have all their pay details updated regularly on the system, but mine isn't.
Anyways, all the school's incoming and outgoing "official" memos are on it. Korean teachers also input all students grade information into it too. Not sure if I have access to it, but the system is extensive. So a newbie teacher may no know where to look if there are memos that concern a NET. |
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, how I wish I was given the chance to evaluate my co-teachers.  But of course they have no interest in what the foreigner has to say about Koreans' English ability. Even though we are in the perfect position to do so. They just don't want our input. A few years back I informed a co-teacher (discreetly) that she should stop saying "next-uh", "sandwich-ee" and other typical Korean mispronunciations in class. The students will, after all, have to unlearn that nonsense. Starting next class she started emphasizing "next-UH" and "sandwich-EE". They just don't want our input.
Imagine if back home we brought over a Korean speaker to help students learn Korean, then ignored everything he said. Now imagine the American co-teacher had only the most basic understanding of Korean, and made error after error, yet wouldn't let the Korean teacher set anything straight. It would be the height of absurdity. Now imagine if the Korean teacher were marginalized in the classroom, relegated to pressing the tape cassette button while the American teacher (can't speak Korean) makes a mess of the lesson. It's inconceivable...yet here it is too often the norm.
They don't want insights from waygukin in Korean classrooms. You'd think the principle would value our opinions about our co-teachers' English abilities. Nope. But will they get to evaluate us? You betcha.....And the thing is, if the school requested that they evaluate us in English they'd have panic attacks.  |
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nbbboby
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| Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Scorpion wrote: |
Oh, how I wish I was given the chance to evaluate my co-teachers. But of course they have no interest in what the foreigner has to say about Koreans' English ability. Even though we are in the perfect position to do so. They just don't want our input. A few years back I informed a co-teacher (discreetly) that she should stop saying "next-uh", "sandwich-ee" and other typical Korean mispronunciations in class. The students will, after all, have to unlearn that nonsense. Starting next class she started emphasizing "next-UH" and "sandwich-EE". They just don't want our input.
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When I encounter the more serious pronunciation problems from my co-teachers I privately tell them that I have noticed a few students problems. I ask them to assist me in correcting the improper pronunciation after i have outlined the mistakes and modeled corrections.
Saving co-teachers pride costs me nothing. |
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