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Teacher competency and mental illness
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watergirl



Joined: 01 Jul 2008
Location: Ansan, south korea

PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe me…You sound a lot more 'normal' and well-balanced than several people here teaching now!!
But, yes, check 'no' for mental illness. They are hiring a complete foreigner and so, have very little to go on.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

watergirl wrote:
Believe me…You sound a lot more 'normal' and well-balanced than several people here teaching now!!
But, yes, check 'no' for mental illness. They are hiring a complete foreigner and so, have very little to go on.


Check yes and not only will the school reject you, Korean immigration too. There is no compassion in the selection process, immediately into the waste basket it goes somewhere by somebody. When applying think for your best interests, because the recruiters and schools are thinking solely what is in their best interests. I'm surprised somebody would even inquire about the question. Laughing
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archaeologist5



Joined: 25 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzmaster wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:
Just a point of view check here. Do you really think parents want a person who pops multiple (mental) pills teaching their kids?


So long as the person is a good teacher, then I wouldn't mind. I'd be more worried about them being taught by an intolerant person who would judge another person for seeking medical help for a problem.


I have avoided this topic because it is a very subjective issue. One person's mental illness is another person's normality. But the above questions raise interesting points.

I do not think any parent would want their kids taught by anyone who is severely mentally ill and I would not classify sadness or light depression in that category.

The second question causes me concern because the poster is saying the that a good personality trumps disease. I think it would be very difficult for a person to be a consistently good teacher while struggling with a mental illness.

I think the students would notice and the effectiveness of the teacher would shrink. I also question his criteria about intolerance. If the person is a good teacher why can't they be in the classroom?

Sounds a little hypocritical and setting a double standard. Seems like the poster is saying that he/she gets to say who can or can't teach regardless of their abilities and effectiveness in the classroom. If the person holds to an ideology the poster doesn't agree with, then they are not allowed in the classroom and that is just unfair and wrong.

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A better question would be "Do you really think parents want a person who carelessly ignores a serious health condition to teach their kids?"


No one should ignore a serious health issue BUT the problem should be addressed by the person with the health issue. I realize that many people want to be employed and teaching overseas seems to be a good idea BUT the person should be responsible enough to evaluate their condition and remove themselves from consideration if they have mental health issues.

For any teacher, the student needs to come first.
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jazzmaster



Joined: 30 Sep 2013

PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

archaeologist5 wrote:
jazzmaster wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:
Just a point of view check here. Do you really think parents want a person who pops multiple (mental) pills teaching their kids?


So long as the person is a good teacher, then I wouldn't mind. I'd be more worried about them being taught by an intolerant person who would judge another person for seeking medical help for a problem.


I have avoided this topic because it is a very subjective issue. One person's mental illness is another person's normality. But the above questions raise interesting points.

I do not think any parent would want their kids taught by anyone who is severely mentally ill and I would not classify sadness or light depression in that category.

The second question causes me concern because the poster is saying the that a good personality trumps disease. I think it would be very difficult for a person to be a consistently good teacher while struggling with a mental illness.

I think the students would notice and the effectiveness of the teacher would shrink. I also question his criteria about intolerance. If the person is a good teacher why can't they be in the classroom?

Sounds a little hypocritical and setting a double standard. Seems like the poster is saying that he/she gets to say who can or can't teach regardless of their abilities and effectiveness in the classroom. If the person holds to an ideology the poster doesn't agree with, then they are not allowed in the classroom and that is just unfair and wrong.

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A better question would be "Do you really think parents want a person who carelessly ignores a serious health condition to teach their kids?"


No one should ignore a serious health issue BUT the problem should be addressed by the person with the health issue. I realize that many people want to be employed and teaching overseas seems to be a good idea BUT the person should be responsible enough to evaluate their condition and remove themselves from consideration if they have mental health issues.

For any teacher, the student needs to come first.


There is no second question.
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archaeologist5



Joined: 25 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is no second question.


That is the best you can do? You pick on a minute comment out of all that and decide to ruin the discussion by posting 5 words. No wonder I have a low view of other westerners.
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radcon



Joined: 23 May 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

archaeologist5 wrote:
Quote:
There is no second question.


That is the best you can do? You pick on a minute comment out of all that and decide to ruin the discussion by posting 5 words. No wonder I have a low view of other westerners.


Does that low view you have of other westerners include your mom? How about Nils Bejerot?
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archaeologist5



Joined: 25 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does that low view you have of other westerners include your mom? How about Nils Bejerot?


My mom has been dead for over 20 years. Bejerot is dead too so why not use living examples?
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jazzmaster



Joined: 30 Sep 2013

PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

archaeologist5 wrote:
Quote:
There is no second question.


That is the best you can do? You pick on a minute comment out of all that and decide to ruin the discussion by posting 5 words. No wonder I have a low view of other westerners.


You have a low view of other westerners, yet you seem unable to read a paragraph and understand the difference between a question and a statement. I have a low view of you.
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archaeologist5



Joined: 25 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzmaster wrote:


You have a low view of other westerners, yet you seem unable to read a paragraph and understand the difference between a question and a statement. I have a low view of you.


Good, then I do not have to worry about you trying to become my buddy.

If your judgment of another person depends upon distorting honest mistakes into some intelligence character flaw to be used to do a personal attack, then you just confirm my viewpoint of some westerners.

Why not present your rebuttal to my points instead of trying to side-step them with this trivia?
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