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ghostrider
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Thanks to the person who posted that really long link which makes this thread difficult to read.
So when are Americans going to start eating more kimchi? It must be frustrating for the Koreans who live there. |
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crescent
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:05 am Post subject: |
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If I want Korean stuff back home I either have to go to the Korean grocery or make do with a small rack of crappiness at the local Kroger or Ralph's. Sorry for a great many ethnicities out there they either use local ingredients and prepare things from scratch and trade them within their community OR they start an ethnic grocery. For Koreans in big cities, there is usually a Korean grocery. For those in small towns, you either have some stuff shipped or you make a once a month 6 hour car ride somewhere.
What they don't do is whine about how Americans aren't eating like them and upset that the local grocery store doesn't stock item X. They don't feel entitled to it. There is a world of difference in attitude between a person who asks "Where can I find whole grain products" vs. "Why aren't the people here into whole grains? When will they FINALLY eat more?" There is something in the attitude of the writer of the second sentence that suggests entitlement and a belief that the people of Korea exist to make him happy. |
Wait. I thought Koreans just prepare from scratch. 'Now 'from scratch' has morphed into 'Koreans go to the Korean grocer'.
Care to divulge how it is you know that Koreans don't whine about food availability when living abroad? I mean as rule, Koreans just don't do this? Amazing! And even more amazing that you know this! While you're trying to explain this feat of clairvoyance, could you also explain how you know the OP feels entitled to have anything? I didn't realize that the words "Why?" and "Finally" indicate entitlement! This is groundbreaking stuff SR! Where did you get your crystal ball? Korean grocer, or shipped in? We now know you didn't make it from scratch. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
If I want Korean stuff back home I either have to go to the Korean grocery or make do with a small rack of crappiness at the local Kroger or Ralph's. Sorry for a great many ethnicities out there they either use local ingredients and prepare things from scratch and trade them within their community OR they start an ethnic grocery. For Koreans in big cities, there is usually a Korean grocery. For those in small towns, you either have some stuff shipped or you make a once a month 6 hour car ride somewhere.
What they don't do is whine about how Americans aren't eating like them and upset that the local grocery store doesn't stock item X. They don't feel entitled to it. There is a world of difference in attitude between a person who asks "Where can I find whole grain products" vs. "Why aren't the people here into whole grains? When will they FINALLY eat more?" There is something in the attitude of the writer of the second sentence that suggests entitlement and a belief that the people of Korea exist to make him happy. |
Wait. I thought Koreans just prepare from scratch. 'Now 'from scratch' has morphed into 'Koreans go to the Korean grocer'.
Care to divulge how it is you know that Koreans don't whine about food availability when living abroad? I mean as rule, Koreans just don't do this? Amazing! And even more amazing that you know this! This is groundbreaking stuff SR! Where did you get your crystal ball? Korean grocer, or shipped in? We now know you didn't make it from scratch. |
Lol, I thought the same exact thing when I read that post. Dude is losing it. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| byrddogs wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
If I want Korean stuff back home I either have to go to the Korean grocery or make do with a small rack of crappiness at the local Kroger or Ralph's. Sorry for a great many ethnicities out there they either use local ingredients and prepare things from scratch and trade them within their community OR they start an ethnic grocery. For Koreans in big cities, there is usually a Korean grocery. For those in small towns, you either have some stuff shipped or you make a once a month 6 hour car ride somewhere.
What they don't do is whine about how Americans aren't eating like them and upset that the local grocery store doesn't stock item X. They don't feel entitled to it. There is a world of difference in attitude between a person who asks "Where can I find whole grain products" vs. "Why aren't the people here into whole grains? When will they FINALLY eat more?" There is something in the attitude of the writer of the second sentence that suggests entitlement and a belief that the people of Korea exist to make him happy. |
Wait. I thought Koreans just prepare from scratch. 'Now 'from scratch' has morphed into 'Koreans go to the Korean grocer'.
Care to divulge how it is you know that Koreans don't whine about food availability when living abroad? I mean as rule, Koreans just don't do this? Amazing! And even more amazing that you know this! This is groundbreaking stuff SR! Where did you get your crystal ball? Korean grocer, or shipped in? We now know you didn't make it from scratch. |
Lol, I thought the same exact thing when I read that post. Dude is losing it. |
Agreed.
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Just to toss something different into the thread for the topic creator, you may be interested in checking out The Baker's Table near Noksapyeong if you may somewhat regular excursions into Seoul.
Link to Blog with Amusing Title |
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rainman3277
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| Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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As an aside.......(and I don't mean to take a shot at Korea).....why are Koreans so slow to start eating whole grains? Any thoughts? Smoking rates have dropped signifincantly in the past decades, gyms are ubiquitous in most neighbourhoods and they have first rate internet and public transportation.
My theory: whole grains would be replacing something that is considered Korean whereas things like smart phones and gyms are adding and not replacing.
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My theory, not resenting people for what their culture eats and not expecting them to change their dietary habits in order to make YOU happy (in other words these people don't exist in order to make you happy), and changing that whole attitude will be far more beneficial to your stress levels, and thereby your overall health than any bowl of oatmeal.
You know what Koreans (and other immigrants) do overseas when they can't find something? They either grow it or they find the base ingredients and prepare it from scratch. They don't whine that the local Ralph's or Kroger's or Aldi doesn't carry Korean food X. Do the same. |
Did you recently get promoted from defender to idolizer? Continuing to come onto these chat boards you must be a masochist. lol.
However, OP, criticizing their lack of whole grains? Really? Next shall we discuss their lack of shower curtains compared to the west? |
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neilio
Joined: 12 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: Korea's frusterating lack of whole grains....bread deliv |
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As an aside.......(and I don't mean to take a shot at Korea).....why are Koreans so slow to start eating whole grains? Any thoughts? |
"Whole grains" contain a ton of phytates, aka anti-nutrients. If you don't know what they are google it or basically they cling onto (good)nutrients and carry them out of your body. What's ironic is that white bread, having gone through all the processing has less phytic acid (phytates) and will result in less nutrients flushed out.
The ultimate question is - Why do you want grains in the first place? They're terrible for your health (gluten is death, this is accepted) and low in nutrients. The only sensible answer is that they taste good. That I agree with.
If you had to choose between white bread and whole grain bread, i'd pick the white bread as it's simply the lesser of two evils.
It's like Coke vs Diet coke,, if i HAD to choose one i'd pick Coke. Our bodies can deal with sugar, but aspartame is on a whole other level.
So do a bit of digging on dangers of gluten and phytic acid aka anti-nutrients and i hope you get your answers. |
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Captain Corea
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Pretty sure that's the stuff I get at Emart. |
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byrddogs
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe all of the whiners can do as SR suggests and either grow it or find the base ingredients from scratch and trade them within their expat community like other immigrants do? Perhaps if you live in a smaller town you might need to drive a ways away. It's pretty simple actually. |
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drydell
Joined: 01 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:37 am Post subject: Re: Korea's frusterating lack of whole grains....bread deliv |
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| neilio wrote: |
| itiswhatitis wrote: |
As an aside.......(and I don't mean to take a shot at Korea).....why are Koreans so slow to start eating whole grains? Any thoughts? |
"Whole grains" contain a ton of phytates, aka anti-nutrients. If you don't know what they are google it or basically they cling onto (good)nutrients and carry them out of your body. What's ironic is that white bread, having gone through all the processing has less phytic acid (phytates) and will result in less nutrients flushed out.
The ultimate question is - Why do you want grains in the first place? They're terrible for your health (gluten is death, this is accepted) and low in nutrients. The only sensible answer is that they taste good. That I agree with.
If you had to choose between white bread and whole grain bread, i'd pick the white bread as it's simply the lesser of two evils.
It's like Coke vs Diet coke,, if i HAD to choose one i'd pick Coke. Our bodies can deal with sugar, but aspartame is on a whole other level.
So do a bit of digging on dangers of gluten and phytic acid aka anti-nutrients and i hope you get your answers. |
Paleo low-carb broscience crap.. Whole grains are excellent food choices. Bread and pasta yum yum yum .. |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:36 am Post subject: Re: Korea's frusterating lack of whole grains....bread deliv |
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| neilio wrote: |
| itiswhatitis wrote: |
As an aside.......(and I don't mean to take a shot at Korea).....why are Koreans so slow to start eating whole grains? Any thoughts? |
"Whole grains" contain a ton of phytates, aka anti-nutrients. If you don't know what they are google it or basically they cling onto (good)nutrients and carry them out of your body. What's ironic is that white bread, having gone through all the processing has less phytic acid (phytates) and will result in less nutrients flushed out.
The ultimate question is - Why do you want grains in the first place? They're terrible for your health (gluten is death, this is accepted) and low in nutrients. The only sensible answer is that they taste good. That I agree with.
If you had to choose between white bread and whole grain bread, i'd pick the white bread as it's simply the lesser of two evils.
It's like Coke vs Diet coke,, if i HAD to choose one i'd pick Coke. Our bodies can deal with sugar, but aspartame is on a whole other level.
So do a bit of digging on dangers of gluten and phytic acid aka anti-nutrients and i hope you get your answers. |
I think Koreans would be much better off sticking with white rice rather than eating more "healthy whole grains." Grains are toxic in their natural state. The more processing they go through the more suitable they can become for human consumption. |
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yodanole
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:20 am Post subject: Re: Korea's frusterating lack of whole grains....bread deliv |
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It's a matter of taste, in which people differ. I've never been able to tolerate whole wheat/grain bread. It is too heavy and sits in my stomach like bricks. It doesn't go down any too well either. I do not give any great consideration to health concerns in instances like this. If you eat a widely varied diet, eating nothing in excess, you will probably be fine, at least as fine as humanly possible.
As others have pointed out, if you really feel an urge to consume whole grain products, there are a lot of options. But eating whole grain breads simply because they taste good would never have even occurred to me. It's just too much trouble to try to choke them down
| neilio wrote: |
| itiswhatitis wrote: |
As an aside.......(and I don't mean to take a shot at Korea).....why are Koreans so slow to start eating whole grains? Any thoughts? |
"Whole grains" contain a ton of phytates, aka anti-nutrients. If you don't know what they are google it or basically they cling onto (good)nutrients and carry them out of your body. What's ironic is that white bread, having gone through all the processing has less phytic acid (phytates) and will result in less nutrients flushed out.
The ultimate question is - Why do you want grains in the first place? They're terrible for your health (gluten is death, this is accepted) and low in nutrients. The only sensible answer is that they taste good. That I agree with.
If you had to choose between white bread and whole grain bread, i'd pick the white bread as it's simply the lesser of two evils.
It's like Coke vs Diet coke,, if i HAD to choose one i'd pick Coke. Our bodies can deal with sugar, but aspartame is on a whole other level.
So do a bit of digging on dangers of gluten and phytic acid aka anti-nutrients and i hope you get your answers. |
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