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Korean guys would defend a Korean girl form another K-guy?
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Would a similar Korean violent guy in a restaurant get heroes challenging him too?
Yes, just as many Korean guys would rescue an abused girl.
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No, not as many Korean guys would rescue an abused girl
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It would be the same number in a true random sample in the USA or Korea
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Smaug the Golden



Joined: 04 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:56 pm    Post subject: Korean guys would defend a Korean girl form another K-guy? Reply with quote

I stopped a Korean man who was yelling and shoving his girl/wife on the street one time. I did not get physical but I did get into his space and tell him to stop pushing her. Then I left (without the girl - he probably started to push her again Sad ) All the Koreans who walked by ignored them or stared for a bit and kept walking.

I think in the USA there is always a tough guy who will stop some girl from being picked on. I would like to see a hidden camera and a Korean couple in a Kim Bop shop with the guy talking cruel to his girl. I bet most people would just ignore it. Or maybe I am wrong. Also, reality tv is not real as you do not know how many times they filmed for the desired reactions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMSb5fS5rQM
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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a Korean hidden camera show the other day that had this situation. People waiting for an elevator, doors open and this guy is assaulting a woman. The people either screamed for help (usually women), yelled at the man to stop, or went in and tried to grab the guy.
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

optik404 wrote:
I saw a Korean hidden camera show the other day that had this situation. People waiting for an elevator, doors open and this guy is assaulting a woman. The people either screamed for help (usually women), yelled at the man to stop, or went in and tried to grab the guy.


Wow, I saw that just the other day as well. It was quite enlightening. Was it scripted? I'd like to think not.
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

optik404 wrote:
I saw a Korean hidden camera show the other day that had this situation. People waiting for an elevator, doors open and this guy is assaulting a woman. The people either screamed for help (usually women), yelled at the man to stop, or went in and tried to grab the guy.

In an ELEVATOR, that's understandable; they want to use it and get to where they want to go. They pretty much have to intervene.

In a place where they could just keep walking unimpeded and ignore the incident, then things could be very different.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:20 am    Post subject: Re: Korean guys would defend a Korean girl form another K-gu Reply with quote

Smaug the Golden wrote:
I stopped a Korean man who was yelling and shoving his girl/wife on the street one time. I did not get physical but I did get into his space and tell him to stop pushing her. Then I left (without the girl - he probably started to push her again Sad ) All the Koreans who walked by ignored them or stared for a bit and kept walking.


Out of curiosity, was the woman trying to flee or screaming for help? If not, I'm not surprised that people were just walking by instead of intervening. You said she was still with him when you left, so it doesn't sound like she was too eager to get away. Hopefully she didn't get a revenge beating later that night as a result of your having shamed her man.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time, place, manner, gender, attractiveness, etc. all will produce wildly varying reactions here or back home. And even then you can have identical people involved in the same place and so on and still get different reactions.

My best guess is that here and back home there are different markers and indicators that would cause people to spring into action and try and calm things down. I've seen people here freak out over trivial stuff that back home would just be two people arguing. I've also seen people shrug at stuff that back home would cause a everyone to rush in.

I don't know if anyone has experienced this, but me or my friends been dragged away by Koreans for "nearly causing a fight" when me and some friends were just taking the piss out of each other for fun (multiple times- one for arguing over which countries celebrities were better and another over sports teams and politics too) and I've seen stuff go down that I try to intervene and Koreans tell me to just leave it alone.

There've been times where I though a couple of my Korean friends were near blows and they needed to be broken up but they were just having a fun argument. There are other times where a fight has broken out and I had no idea that it was getting to that point.

And of course you have the couples that love to argue and fight with each other.
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Old fat expat



Joined: 19 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And of course you have the couples that love to argue and fight with each other.


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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm mostly with SR on this one - every situation is different. Even myself - I'm usually the sort to jump into the mix.. but if I had my kid with me, that'd be a different story.

That being said, I think Western countries, especially the US, Canada, and Aus, seem to have more of a "cowboy culture" - one that, at least on a certain level, encourages civilian intervention/vigilantism.
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archaeologist5



Joined: 25 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean guys would defend a Korean girl form another K-gu Reply with quote

Smaug the Golden wrote:
I stopped a Korean man who was yelling and shoving his girl/wife on the street one time. I did not get physical but I did get into his space and tell him to stop pushing her. Then I left (without the girl - he probably started to push her again Sad ) All the Koreans who walked by ignored them or stared for a bit and kept walking.

I think in the USA there is always a tough guy who will stop some girl from being picked on. I would like to see a hidden camera and a Korean couple in a Kim Bop shop with the guy talking cruel to his girl. I bet most people would just ignore it. Or maybe I am wrong. Also, reality tv is not real as you do not know how many times they filmed for the desired reactions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMSb5fS5rQM


I am thinking that the same laws stopping westerners from interfering would also stop Koreans from doing the same.

Then, I would presume that if a Korean interfered there is nothing stopping the girl being protected from siding with her boyfriend/husband and cause a lot of trouble for the 'hero'.

on a personal note, I do not condone or approve of what you did but tend to think you mention it here to be slapped on the back for doing something that may or may not be 'courageous'.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean guys would defend a Korean girl form another K-gu Reply with quote

archaeologist5 wrote:


I am thinking that the same laws stopping westerners from interfering would also stop Koreans from doing the same.

What laws are those?
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Smaug the Golden



Joined: 04 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korean woman was not trying to run or get away from the man on the Korean street. She was responding to him when he yelled and pushed her. But, she was not pushing or doing any fighting in return. The guy would yell, yell, yell, and then would do a violent strong push on her upper body with his open palms. It was probably enough of a sudden motion to bruise her a little. Yes, you are right though I guess, it is sort of a white hat cowboy culture that we have in the Americas. That was one of those cases where I felt obligated to intervene. I did not see the elevator scene. I only watch TV if I stay in a hotel.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think western culture makes a big deal out of a man hitting a woman, and focuses on just the gender of the people involved. Would you intervene if a guy was beating a guy or a girl was beating a guy? Also you don't know the situation. Sometimes a person says or does something that warrants a smack. Sometimes they're playing around. Sometimes the "violence" isn't that big of a deal. Unless it's a sure case of a somebody being assaulted and pummeled to the ground, it's not my business.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:24 am    Post subject: Re: Korean guys would defend a Korean girl form another K-gu Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
archaeologist5 wrote:


I am thinking that the same laws stopping westerners from interfering would also stop Koreans from doing the same.

What laws are those?


Get in a fight, the other guy with a witness (beaten up girlfriend) tells the cops you assulted him, and you end up paying blood money or getting charged.
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Jodami



Joined: 08 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smaug the Golden:

Please, please, please keep on intervening when this happens again. I pray that some 50kg Korean guy, not only kicks your ass, but you also get arrested and end up paying substantial blood money.

When will you wannabe esl superhero losers learn to keep your big white noses out of Korean business.

If I was passing by, I'd join in with the Korean guy, to give you a good shoe-ing.
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Speck7



Joined: 05 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The brazen white Knight steps in again to save the day, captain save a hoe. You know full well you wouldn't do it back home, you just feel all mighty and powerful in Korea, but back home you are probably as beta as they come.
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