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English School Association not covering return airfare?
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
A teaching job in Korea at 2.0 / 2.2 is better than no job back home or a service industry job at minimum wage.

No job? How much could one make on the dole for not working (for many, a more enjoyable option than working)?

Service industry? Depends on whether or not the job is a tipped position. A waitress in the U.S. can easily make $25 per hour. That's more than an EFL teacher in Korea.


My wifes friend is a waitress WT, she makes about 20-28$ an hour depending on TIPS. However, she has no benefits whatesoever and her hours are not stable.

My point, and you missed it I think, is that often a TEACHING job abroad seems like a better choice than a service industry job or no job to speak of back home.

That is just my opinion WT, feel free to ignore it. Laughing
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Rockhard



Joined: 11 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Busan

Okay, but it's not an either/or choice. We shouldn't allow ourselves to fall into that trap. Coming to Korea is one of many options are desperate person has.

A man could go to Japan, China, Vietnam, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, or Alberta.

A woman could go to Japan, China, Vietnam, Malaysia, or become a mother, or become a sex worker.

There are a multitude of options available to people of which Korea is just one. And from my perspective there are better options out there right now. A lot of people focus on the headline salary, but there's a lot more to it than that.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No debate, Korea is one destination among many.

Korea does still offers a pretty good starting package in terms of salary and benefits or entry-level teachers with no experience and unrelated degrees.

At the end of the day it is all a choice and my point was simply that teaching abroad (Korea in this case) may be more attractive that being stuck in a service industry job back home for many new grads (esp social science grads).
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alljokingaside



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking as a out-of-country applicant, if I see a job w/o airfare/one-way airfare, but offers a better salary than other jobs- say, 200-300k KRW more/mo - then I'd be willing to go with that since I'd either recoop the losses or even profit.

Also, times are rough in the States. N. Korea said so, so it must be true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoQOQHQ8oA
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Rockhard



Joined: 11 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alljokingaside wrote:
Speaking as a out-of-country applicant, if I see a job w/o airfare/one-way airfare, but offers a better salary than other jobs- say, 200-300k KRW more/mo - then I'd be willing to go with that since I'd either recoop the losses or even profit.

Also, times are rough in the States. N. Korea said so, so it must be true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoQOQHQ8oA


As the US is proof of, your actual salary is not that important.

I have a better standard of living than someone in the states making $75,000 a year.

Taxes, cost of housing, transportation, food, communications, are often more important than what you actually earn.

Compared to the West, Korea is still pretty good, but expenses are rising quickly and salaries are not moving. In China your salary is rising all the time and you live like a king compared to the average person.
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