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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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People should protest the old dudes. Have a bunch of signs telling them what aholes they are being in English and Korean. Get them to take some swings and then have them taken to US jail.
Either that or move in the natural nemesis of the old Korean- the young minority female. 50 of them taking up seats instead and competing for space should clear them out. |
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Maserial
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Location: The Web
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| Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a 'McResolution' is in the works. http://politicker.com/2014/01/mcresolution-elected-officials-help-broker-peace-at-flushing-mcdonalds/
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Tensions had been brewing since last week, when the New York Times reported that Korean-American seniors had been feuding with a McDonald’s in the area. The seniors, the report said, would sit for hours, ordering almost nothing, frustrating the business and hungry patrons. The report prompted some Korean-American leaders to call for a boycott of the restaurant in response to what they alleged was discrimination.
But today, the leaders assembled across the street from the McDonald’s in question to declare all was settled, invoking Martin Luther King, Jr. Day to make their point.
“Today on a very important holiday, we’re gathered here to honor Dr. King’s work by working together as a community to promote justice, unity and collaboration,” said Mr. Kim, the state’s first Korean-American elected official, who organized the event. “Instead of trying to divide the community between a business owner and local seniors, we focused attention on what we could achieve together.” |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Remember back in the day when the mob and the Teamsters Union would handle problems like this instead of people bringing out their latest Martin Luther Yawn excuse? |
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itiswhatitis
Joined: 08 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Maybe now when expats return after teaching in Korea people will understand that there is a difference between being a bigot and speaking from experience.
My God some of the BS that I've been through in this place..... |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| itiswhatitis wrote: |
Maybe now when expats return after teaching in Korea people will understand that there is a difference between being a bigot and speaking from experience.
My God some of the BS that I've been through in this place..... |
Actually, what a bigot does is selectively apply experiences, generally negative, and use them to describe entire groups of people rather than individuals. If that's what you did, then its no surprise people called you a bigot.
Also I love how you assume every expat coming home is bitter and angry and hurt by their experience. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| itiswhatitis wrote: |
Maybe now when expats return after teaching in Korea people will understand that there is a difference between being a bigot and speaking from experience.
My God some of the BS that I've been through in this place..... |
Actually, what a bigot does is selectively apply experiences, generally negative, and use them to describe entire groups of people rather than individuals. If that's what you did, then its no surprise people called you a bigot.
Also I love how you assume every expat coming home is bitter and angry and hurt by their experience. |
Meh, I think it's a matter of attitude. I don't see a problem with identifying and laughing at cultural idiosyncrasies, but it becomes one when you view your own culture as somehow superior. To say you can't generalize at all is to be the worst archetype of a California liberal (which you aren't). The brazen stubbornness in this story, though obnoxious, is part of Korean culture's charm. I don't think you can pretend that Korean culture had no (hilarious) part to play here. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| I don't see a problem with identifying and laughing at cultural idiosyncrasies, but it becomes one when you view your own culture as somehow superior. |
But assuming anything matters in life, some cultures almost assuredly are superior to others to the extent that they better recognize and work towards those things. If by contrast nothing matters, believing one's own culture to be superior cannot possibly be a problem. The only grounds upon which I can see to take objection is if a member of an inferior culture mistakenly asserts cultural superiority, but even then, it's more a pity than a problem. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| itiswhatitis wrote: |
Maybe now when expats return after teaching in Korea people will understand that there is a difference between being a bigot and speaking from experience.
My God some of the BS that I've been through in this place..... |
Actually, what a bigot does is selectively apply experiences, generally negative, and use them to describe entire groups of people rather than individuals. If that's what you did, then its no surprise people called you a bigot.
Also I love how you assume every expat coming home is bitter and angry and hurt by their experience. |
Meh, I think it's a matter of attitude. I don't see a problem with identifying and laughing at cultural idiosyncrasies, but it becomes one when you view your own culture as somehow superior. To say you can't generalize at all is to be the worst archetype of a California liberal (which you aren't). The brazen stubbornness in this story, though obnoxious, is part of Korean culture's charm. I don't think you can pretend that Korean culture had no (hilarious) part to play here. |
Well, chuckling at a turn like this is fine, as I've done in this thread.
I think more negative l stuff beyond some Korean Old-Timer jokes might start getting into that territory. Is one giving insight into the idle ways of old Koreans or are they ranting about how Koreans are a bunch of racist, moronic, Klowns. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| itiswhatitis wrote: |
Maybe now when expats return after teaching in Korea people will understand that there is a difference between being a bigot and speaking from experience.
My God some of the BS that I've been through in this place..... |
Actually, what a bigot does is selectively apply experiences, generally negative, and use them to describe entire groups of people rather than individuals. If that's what you did, then its no surprise people called you a bigot.
Also I love how you assume every expat coming home is bitter and angry and hurt by their experience. |
Meh, I think it's a matter of attitude. I don't see a problem with identifying and laughing at cultural idiosyncrasies, but it becomes one when you view your own culture as somehow superior. To say you can't generalize at all is to be the worst archetype of a California liberal (which you aren't). The brazen stubbornness in this story, though obnoxious, is part of Korean culture's charm. I don't think you can pretend that Korean culture had no (hilarious) part to play here. |
Well, chuckling at a turn like this is fine, as I've done in this thread.
I think more negative l stuff beyond some Korean Old-Timer jokes might start getting into that territory. Is one giving insight into the idle ways of old Koreans or are they ranting about how Koreans are a bunch of racist, moronic, Klowns. |
Ah yes, old chap, I agree. The wife and I often chuckle when the elders over here are bewildered that we clean up after our dog takes a poop. They have used 'laowai' on more than one occassion when discussing this matter. I know that they mean no harm. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Finally, we have the solution to McDonald's ajoshhi question. Wait fror them to cut in line at the counter then....arrest them. 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/school-to-prison-pipeline-wake-county_n_4654351.html
Once arrested, demand their immigration papers. Those who are there illegally are deported, and they can sit at Lotteria back in Daegu for ten hours a day. Those who are in fact in the States legally have nevertheless been arrested on McDonald premises and can now be safely banned from returning.
Problem solved. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men. |
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knee-highs
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Died By Bear wrote: |
| Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men. |
You are absolitely rute! |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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"In fact, Korean patrons are continuing to gather and sit for hours at the popular venue in violation of the compromise, according to media reports and passers-by in the area."
“These Korean seniors share a $1 cup of coffee between two to three people and get refills. Sometimes, they even take the cups home, wash them and bring them back for refills. As a Korean, it’s really embarrassing to see this,’’ wrote one user on an online thread criticizing the McDonald’s boycott campaign that was prompted soon after the standoff started."
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2014/01/116_150528.html |
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neilio
Joined: 12 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Solution: security guard enforce the 20 minute rule.
I'm enjoying this story, wish there was some video footage. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Solution: security guard enforce the 20 minute rule.
I'm enjoying this story, wish there was some video footage. |
How about the freeloaders just adhering to the posted rule? That would be the easiest solution, right? |
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