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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
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Either no one knows the person who posted that tweet or everyone knows him. Is he an expat restaurant blogger? He should justify his accusation of racism or apologize. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Its mostly just naivety.
Koreans aren't really that racist.
Just ignorant of how the rest of the world works.
Westerners are hypersensitive.
So what if black americans are fond of fried chicken. Different ethnic groups have different culinary tastes. Koreans are fond of raw fish, Italians are fond of pasta. Is it "racist" to say so? |
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bangbayed
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| Chaparrastique wrote: |
Its mostly just naivety.
Koreans aren't really that racist.
Just ignorant of how the rest of the world works.
Westerners are hypersensitive.
So what if black americans are fond of fried chicken. Different ethnic groups have different culinary tastes. Koreans are fond of raw fish, Italians are fond of pasta. Is it "racist" to say so? |
Ah so easy for some people to be lackadaisical about ignorance and racism.
"So what if <insert whole group of people> are/like <adjective or general object>". Do you see any potential problem with that sentence construction? If not, ask a black person. |
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Ginormousaurus
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| bangbayed wrote: |
| Chaparrastique wrote: |
Its mostly just naivety.
Koreans aren't really that racist.
Just ignorant of how the rest of the world works.
Westerners are hypersensitive.
So what if black americans are fond of fried chicken. Different ethnic groups have different culinary tastes. Koreans are fond of raw fish, Italians are fond of pasta. Is it "racist" to say so? |
Ah so easy for some people to be lackadaisical about ignorance and racism.
"So what if <insert whole group of people> are/like <adjective or general object>". Do you see any potential problem with that sentence construction? If not, ask a black person. |
Is it racist to say black Americans are fond of fried food? I don't see how that can be insulting in any way. I, myself, like fried food. I first learned that black Americans (apparently) like fried chicken and waffles from watching The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Was that show racist?
Canadians are predominately white. And judging by what I read online, Canadians like poutine. Is it racist to say white Canadians like poutine?
So what if black Americans are loving, caring people? Is that racist?
So what if black Americans living in poor, rough neighborhoods are likely to be raised by single mothers? Is that racist?
Honestly, I don't even know what constitutes racism anymore. People are so ready to be outraged on behalf of others nowadays. Someone at work the other day said the word 'gypsy' and another coworker got bothered by the "racism". |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| bangbayed wrote: |
Ah so easy for some people to be lackadaisical about ignorance and racism.
"So what if <insert whole group of people> are/like <adjective or general object>". Do you see any potential problem with that sentence construction? If not, ask a black person. |
What if it is true? |
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Ginormousaurus
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| bangbayed wrote: |
| If not, ask a black person. |
So you're saying all black people will have the same opinion? That's raaacist!  |
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bangbayed
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Sure got a lot of you defensive by my little comment, didn't I? I'll concede that extrapolating that 100% of people are x because you saw it on Fresh Prince of Bel Air might not necessarily be racist, but it ain't too bright either, bub.
Will 100% of black people have the same opinion about this if you ask them? No probably not but it'll be way more accurate than a bunch of white (or non-black) people standing around in circle repeating "naw that's not racist, naw, that's not racist".
And Canadians aren't a race, so no, that's not racist. |
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Ginormousaurus
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Sure got a lot of you defensive by my little comment, didn't I? |
Two people responding is "a lot"? I had a different opinion than you. It doesn't mean I'm being defensive. I've grown weary of political correctness run amuck.
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| And Canadians aren't a race, so no, that's not racist. |
I guess you chose to ignore the fact that I said "white Canadians".
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| ...because you saw it on Fresh Prince of Bel Air might not necessarily be racist, but it ain't too bright either, bub. |
I don't know what you're getting at here. How does the content of a television show I watched when I was a kid reflect on my own intelligence? I think it's reasonable to assume there is truth behind some types of jokes. After all, the audience has to be able to relate to find it funny. And, in this case, if it were true that black Americans like fried chicken and waffles, then it's easy to see how your fill-in-the-blank-, off-limits to white people-sentence is not so racist in all cases. But you've since said that yourself, so we agree. And of course I don't think all black people like fried chicken and waffles, so don't get me wrong. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| I've grown weary of political correctness run amuck. |
I know how you feel, I've also grown weary of the systemic injustices and oppression imposed on minorities in the United States. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I've grown weary of political correctness run amuck. |
Come on over to the Dark Side. |
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bangbayed
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
I guess you chose to ignore the fact that I said "white Canadians".
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I guess I did miss that adjective, but technically white Canadians also do not constitute a race.
And besides, if I ever heard someone say "white Canadians like poutine", I'd guess they were either European or just a little weird. But hey, that's my prejudice. At least I can admit to having them.
Again, if you're really wondering if this issue is racist, go ask a black person. That is, if you know any. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see much reason to demand Koreans be sensitive in order to soothe White American/European cultural guilt. The degree to which this little restaurant affects Black people is the degree to which guilt mongers sensationalize it in the media and manage to convince people that they ought to be offended by it. Inciting racial anxieties for Internet-click-driven advertising cash and "Look At How Not racist I Am" status points is not admirable. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| bangbayed wrote: |
| But hey, that's my prejudice. At least I can admit to having them. |
Everyone has prejudices. The human mind cannot meaningfully function on a day to day basis without prejudices. The "War on Prejudice" is not only foolish, it's outright self-contradictory, since it itself is based upon prejudice.
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| Ah so easy for some people to be lackadaisical about ignorance and racism. |
No, it's easy for some people to be lackadaisical about chicken naming conventions at some restaurant in Korea. You people have diluted the meaning of the term "racism" into triviality, and using the word "ignorance" in a pejorative fashion is virtually a badge of shame in its own right.
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| Again, if you're really wondering if this issue is racist, go ask a black person. That is, if you know any. |
My brother's fiancee is a Black woman (and for double diversity points, I'll also mention that she was raised by lesbians). If I ask her, and she says it's not racist, her answer is according to you authoritative, right? |
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bangbayed
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| If I ask her, and she says it's not racist, her answer is according to you authoritative, right? |
It'll be a hell of a lot more accurate than this circle jerk. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Again, if you're really wondering if this issue is racist, go ask a black person. That is, if you know any. |
The above statement is a great example of the white tendency to fetishize blacks. The best mass media examples of this are The Legend of Baggar Vance, The Green Mile and Guinan from TNG. Bangbayed thinks it racist but can not really explain why so instead he relies on a mystical ability that any random black person has to establish morality. |
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