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GEPIK job vs. after-school job

 
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baedaebok



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:12 am    Post subject: GEPIK job vs. after-school job Reply with quote

Should I have taken the GEPIK job or the after-school job? I decided last Sept. to take the after-school job b/c.....

1) higher salary
2) no office hours
3) smaller class sizes
4) freed my mornings so I could volunteer at a charity school twice a week

But...did I make the right decision? After-school classes are more like hagwons (expectations of students, parents, and manager) and not much careful or thoughtful lesson-planning or learning happens (or is expected to happen). It's all about keeping the customers happy with games & candy.

Reason 4 makes the after-school job worth it. If it wasn't for reason 4, I would have taken the GEPIK job.

What do others think? Who has done both kinds of jobs?

BDB
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Public schools look better on the ol' res. For that reason, I'd switch to public (middle or high school) at the end of your contract.
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:42 am    Post subject: Re: GEPIK job vs. after-school job Reply with quote

baedaebok wrote:
Should I have taken the GEPIK job or the after-school job? I decided last Sept. to take the after-school job b/c.....

1) higher salary
2) no office hours
3) smaller class sizes
4) freed my mornings so I could volunteer at a charity school twice a week

But...did I make the right decision? After-school classes are more like hagwons (expectations of students, parents, and manager) and not much careful or thoughtful lesson-planning or learning happens (or is expected to happen). It's all about keeping the customers happy with games & candy.

Reason 4 makes the after-school job worth it. If it wasn't for reason 4, I would have taken the GEPIK job.

What do others think? Who has done both kinds of jobs?

BDB


Do you enjoy your work? If so then you made a good decision. Whose to say you wouldn't have landed at a crappy public school and hated it.

As for charity work there are quite a few volunteer opportunities you can get involved in on the weekends. Check out meetup.com there is a group which tutors North Korean refugees in Yeoju for a couple of hours Sunday morning.
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Emark



Joined: 10 May 2007
Location: duh, Korea?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked my GEPIK job. Prepping 2 classes (and teaching them 10 times each that week) was no-stress. But it came at the expense (or lack there of) of salary.
Stress or salary. What one can you love with more or less of is a personal choice.
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YTMND



Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main negative to after-school positions is lack of management or conflicts with management. I agreed to certain conditions, and different managers replaced the first one. Eventually, one wanted to change the rules, and considering they were recently hired the owner trusted them. Either you end up with a terrible experience from then on or you have to leave.

A public school position is usually set for a full year and they don't want to give the impression of something going wrong, even if there is. A hagwon is what is, more money upfront but you often get screwed near the end or hassled. At least you know what you are getting into. After-school jobs are more chameleon like.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard about so much sketchiness with the after school jobs.

There is a poster on here who had a good experience with them though- augustine (although he said the bosses tried to cheat him out of money), but overall he said it was a good deal and what kept him in Korea.
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've worked for two hagwons and have had nothing but a great experience at both. Great co-workers, both foreign and Korean, and an owner who frequently brings us gifts and food and a lesson play which requires us to actually teach and not babysit.

The management has always been very supportive and actually expelled two students in my time here after frequent complaints by myself and a co-teacher. Imagine that, a hagwon taking a foreigners side and expelling a Korean kid and losing their families business.

I hate sounding like a broken record (youngben88) but good after hours schools do exist.
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Speck7



Joined: 05 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive had to threaten my after school employer with my Korean wife with the labor board to get back all the 1000's of dollars he stole from inflating my taxes and pocketing the money. Never again. If I wasn't married to a Korean I would have never seen taht money again.

After school jobs are sketchy beyond all doubt.
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baedaebok



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:01 am    Post subject: Big vs. small after-school companies Reply with quote

Do the big after-school companies (e.g., Brown, DK, etc.) more stable than a small outfit (e.g., Mr. Kim's one or two school-contracts)?

BDB
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is the behavior of the kids so far? (The latest Miley Cyrus interview made me think about teaching in Korea for some reason.)

"I don't love kids," she told W magazine, on newsstands now. "I don't love them because, I mean, I think I was around too many kids at one point ... They're so f---ing mean."
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