| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
|
 Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:29 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
| World Traveler wrote: |
I was and am a loser just like you, TUM. I made bad choices in life. So did my parents.
For you to say the United States sucks with no good job opportunities for anyone is not true at all. |
I quoted just these two sentences of your post as you made some lamentable errors in them. Permit to correct you.
As regards the first sentence...do me the favor of speaking only for yourself. Some of us utilized foresight in picking enjoyable and lucrative employment opportunities. We have gone over this in detail before. I and others offered you advice on how to do the same in at least 2 separate threads that I recall.
That you choose not to take said advice is your call...try and realize though that not everyone here is in the same situation as you apparently seem to be.
As regards the second I never said any such thing nor implied it.
| Quote: |
| Yet in the same breath you will tell people to go back home and get one of the great jobs that (according to you) that are there and unfilled by the thousands. |
That is what I said...and it is a far cry from saying there are no good job opportunities in the U.S for anyone.
That said I do sincerely wish you good luck in any such future endeavors. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
|
| Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| World Traveler wrote: |
I was and am a loser just like you, TUM. I made bad choices in life. So did my parents...
...For you to say the United States sucks with no good job opportunities for anyone is not true at all. |
I quoted just these two sentences of your post as you made some lamentable errors in them. Permit to correct you.
As regards the first sentence...do me the favor of speaking only for yourself. Some of us utilized foresight in picking enjoyable and lucrative employment opportunities. We have gone over this in detail before. I and others offered you advice on how to do the same in at least 2 separate threads that I recall.
That you choose not to take said advice is your call...try and realize though that not everyone here is in the same situation as you apparently seem to be.
As regards the second I never said any such thing nor implied it.
| Quote: |
| Yet in the same breath you will tell people to go back home and get one of the great jobs that (according to you) that are there and unfilled by the thousands. |
That is what I said...and it is a far cry from saying there are no good job opportunities in the U.S for anyone.
That said I do sincerely wish you good luck in any such future endeavors. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
|
| Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
do me the favor of speaking only for yourself. Some of us utilized foresight in picking enjoyable and lucrative employment opportunities. We have gone over this in detail before. I and others offered you advice on how to do the same in at least 2 separate threads that I recall.
That you choose not to take said advice is your call...try and realize though that not everyone here is in the same situation |
C'mon, man. You are being ridiculous. You and I have the same job: teaching assistant at a South Korean public school. The only difference is I am finishing up my first year, while you have been in the same position (without advancement) for over ten years. You are older than me and have been at it for longer but because you make slightly more money than me think you are better? You and your friend PatrickGHBusan didn't offer me any real advice, just vague, patronizing platitudes pretending to be advice (but really just a way for you to brag and pat yourself on the back). |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:06 am Post subject: |
|
|
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| get one of the great jobs that (according to you) that are there and unfilled by the thousands. |
Thousands? Millions. And not just according to me. Check out these new stats:
| Quote: |
| The Labor Department said last week that job openings rose 1.8 percent to a seasonally adjusted 4 million, the most in five and a half years. |
| Quote: |
| Job openings haven't topped 4 million since March 2008, just a few months after the recession began. Openings at that level are generally consistent with a healthy job market. |
That is good and positive news. Are you happy to hear it? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
| littlelisa wrote: |
| WT, some corrections: US is ranked 35th for life expectancy, |
People discussing the low life expectancies of Americans refuse to listen to the most obvious explanation given for it's poor showing. Smoking is the number one health risk, above all others. Americans smoke more heavily than many other countries. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:49 am Post subject: |
|
|
| World Traveler wrote: |
| About bailouts, well, you are not an economist, radon. Are you aware the companies had to pay back the money? The bailouts were the right choice. They helped the global economy from becoming worse than it did. |
The bailouts were absolutely necessary unless of course it would been OK to have had a massive loss of peoples savings and its insuing devastating effect on the economy. They probably made a mistake in not bailing out Lehman Brothers. The thing that ticks me off is now is the time for the regulation of greed, the love of money, period. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
actionjackson
Joined: 30 Dec 2007
Location: Any place I'm at
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| young_clinton wrote: |
| littlelisa wrote: |
| WT, some corrections: US is ranked 35th for life expectancy, |
People discussing the low life expectancies of Americans refuse to listen to the most obvious explanation given for it's poor showing. Smoking is the number one health risk, above all others. Americans smoke more heavily than many other countries. |
Really? It seems that all the health experts seem to really be pushing this obesity thing. I for one have a hard time believing that something affecting less than 20% is more dangerous than something affecting more than a third of that same population.
| Quote: |
| Percent of adults age 20 years and over who are obese: 35.9% (2009-2010). |
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/overwt.htm
| Quote: |
| Percentage of U.S. adults who were current smokers in 2011 19.0% of all adults: 21.6% of males, 16.5% of females (43.8 million people). |
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/ |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
South Korea has much higher smoking rates than the U.S.
Life expectancy for a white male in the U.S. is higher than for a Korean male living in South Korea. Why? So many Korean men smoke and drink to excess. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| young_clinton wrote: |
| The bailouts were absolutely necessary unless of course it would been OK to have had a massive loss of peoples savings and its insuing devastating effect on the economy. They probably made a mistake in not bailing out Lehman Brothers. |
Young Clinton here is to the modern bankocracy what a peasant who genuinely believed in divine rule was to his king in the past. He won't just be taken advantage of, but he will argue vigorously in defense of the entire process. In his defense, he's probably standard in this regard, but I don't see how things can get better so long as the common citizen genuinely thinks this way. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Most people in the United States are happy. Most people in the United States have a good life.
About uneven wealth distribution, numbers can be misleading. Here's an example:
| Quote: |
| The median wealth of white households is 20 times that of black households and 18 times that of Hispanic households, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of newly available government data from 2009. |
Are white people living that high on the hog? Do they have 20 times the amount of stuff as blackies?
Not really.
The problem with graphs that show people as having nothing is they don't take into consideration that segment could still be living a decent life.
Some people have more debt than assets. That doesn't mean they are in hell now. Maybe they live in a nice house that hasn't been paid off yet. People could have a current net wealth of zero or negative wealth (because of a loan) but still be doing OK. That's something I didn't realize for a while. I too used to be furious about uneven wealth distribution but then realized the U.S. is the wealthiest country to have ever existed. Instead of whining and being a crybaby or crab in the bucket, I should be using this amazing opportunity to advance myself in life. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| World Traveler wrote: |
| Are white people living that high on the hog? Do they have 20 times the amount of stuff as blackies? |
WTF is wrong with you?
Get a grip. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Get a grip on what?
Here's the link:
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2011/07/26/wealth-gaps-rise-to-record-highs-between-whites-blacks-hispanics/
Are whites better off than blacks? Sure. Is it fair? No. Are they twenty times better off than blacks? No.
Are whites not in the upper 1% of American society being "raped" as radcon put it? Again, no.
Recent grads with student loans have a negative net worth. Can they still enjoy life? Yes.
People in the United States are not that bad off compared to the rest of the world. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Old fat expat
Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
| Are whites better off than blacks? Sure. Is it fair? No. Are they twenty times better off than blacks? no. |
Umm, the link you posted actually says they are, given their methodology of measurement (which was a study about net worth across group averages). You probably should not apply a different measure i.e. your subjective assessment of individual's qualitative affect as a counter argument; you and they are describing different things.
Might also want to avoid using the term blackies when referencing blacks. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
|
| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
| World Traveler wrote: |
| Get a grip on what? |
Really?
| Old fat expat wrote: |
| Might also want to avoid using the term blackies when referencing blacks. |
This.
The fact that it had to be pointed out to you is disturbing. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
|
| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:19 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Old fat expat wrote: |
| Umm, the link you posted actually says they are |
My point was, on paper, one person could have 20 times less net worth than another, and yet not have 20 times less possessions. There are people with zero/negative net worth living a good life.
Sorry for using a racist term. Didn't know it was. Now I know. Bad choice of word(s). I was typing fast; I have referred to whites as whities on here (probably not a good thing to say either) and no one said anything. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
