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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/feb/07/sochi-vladimir-putin-hitler-berlin-garry-kasparov
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Sochi is to Putin what Berlin in 1936 was to Hitler, says Garry Kasparov
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Kasparov, a bitter rival of Vladimir Putin who has been detained during opposition rallies in Moscow, said the two-week event was all about Putin's personal glory in the same way that the Berlin Olympics exalted Adolf Hitler. |
Everybody is always Hitler to these people.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116548/only-people-harassing-gays-sochi-are-foreign-journalist
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Sochi has one gay club. It is called Mayak, or “light house,” and it is located behind an unmarked door right off one of the city’s lush parks. You have to buzz to be let in.
Once you’re in, though, you’re just as likely to encounter a foreign journalist as a local.
As Olympic preparations have ramped up and now that the Games are in full swing, Mayak has been mobbed by foreign journalists eager to capture how the local gays live now that Russia has passed a law banning gay propaganda among minors and is now internationally known for hating gays. The foreign journalists buzz about the place. “Have you been to Mayak yet?” we ask one another.
“Too many,” Zhanna the butch cashier says rolling her eyes when I ask her how many foreign journalists have come through here. “Questions, cameras. And always with the same questions.” Are gays being persecuted? Beaten? “I always tell them that we observe all the laws. No one bothers us and we don’t bother anyone.” |
Fields of propagandists are disappointed that gays aren't getting their asses kicked in Sochi. It would have made such a good story!
http://manuelochsenreiter.com/blog/2014/2/9/lets-call-it-a-putsch
Say hello to the Balkan Spring. |
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geldedgoat
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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After seeing that, my first instinct was to try to confirm that the Canadian Institute of Diversity and Inclusion was some sort of joke organization made up by pranksters. It seems like its a real organization though. That's too bad. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/feb/07/sochi-vladimir-putin-hitler-berlin-garry-kasparov
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Sochi is to Putin what Berlin in 1936 was to Hitler, says Garry Kasparov
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Kasparov, a bitter rival of Vladimir Putin who has been detained during opposition rallies in Moscow, said the two-week event was all about Putin's personal glory in the same way that the Berlin Olympics exalted Adolf Hitler. |
Everybody is always Hitler to these people.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116548/only-people-harassing-gays-sochi-are-foreign-journalist
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Sochi has one gay club. It is called Mayak, or “light house,” and it is located behind an unmarked door right off one of the city’s lush parks. You have to buzz to be let in.
Once you’re in, though, you’re just as likely to encounter a foreign journalist as a local.
As Olympic preparations have ramped up and now that the Games are in full swing, Mayak has been mobbed by foreign journalists eager to capture how the local gays live now that Russia has passed a law banning gay propaganda among minors and is now internationally known for hating gays. The foreign journalists buzz about the place. “Have you been to Mayak yet?” we ask one another.
“Too many,” Zhanna the butch cashier says rolling her eyes when I ask her how many foreign journalists have come through here. “Questions, cameras. And always with the same questions.” Are gays being persecuted? Beaten? “I always tell them that we observe all the laws. No one bothers us and we don’t bother anyone.” |
Fields of propagandists are disappointed that gays aren't getting their asses kicked in Sochi. It would have made such a good story!
http://manuelochsenreiter.com/blog/2014/2/9/lets-call-it-a-putsch
Say hello to the Balkan Spring. |
Not in Sochi. They wouldn't be that stupid. |
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guavashake
Joined: 09 Nov 2013
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Your link had at least 1 obviously untrue thing in it, non mainstream or not, it's just dumb. |
I did not post a single link. I posted multiple links.
You made at minimum one obvious error.
Everything you say about anything is hereby irrevocably invalidated.
You have the right to remain silent and follow your own dumb logic. |
No, the context of that tangent was your infowar link, so my comment was obviously directed at that single link. |
In this case, the other link validates my points and invalidates everything you say.
This is a tactic of government and mainstream media. Let's avoid that which will focus on the issue, and focus on that which will avoid the issue. |
No, still mistaken. The opinion piece from the Washington Post was a false equivalence. Individual states may have certain anti-gay laws, but most do not, and the Federal government just extended same sex marriage benefits. Moreover, even allowing for the media's agenda, in Russia you are likely to get more time for attending a protest against Putin than for beating up a gay person. You are avoiding focusing on the issue. |
You can relax Leon, its OK to be gay. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
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| Leon wrote: |
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Your link had at least 1 obviously untrue thing in it, non mainstream or not, it's just dumb. |
I did not post a single link. I posted multiple links.
You made at minimum one obvious error.
Everything you say about anything is hereby irrevocably invalidated.
You have the right to remain silent and follow your own dumb logic. |
No, the context of that tangent was your infowar link, so my comment was obviously directed at that single link. |
In this case, the other link validates my points and invalidates everything you say.
This is a tactic of government and mainstream media. Let's avoid that which will focus on the issue, and focus on that which will avoid the issue. |
No, still mistaken. The opinion piece from the Washington Post was a false equivalence. Individual states may have certain anti-gay laws, but most do not, and the Federal government just extended same sex marriage benefits. Moreover, even allowing for the media's agenda, in Russia you are likely to get more time for attending a protest against Putin than for beating up a gay person. You are avoiding focusing on the issue. |
You can relax Leon, its OK to be gay. |
Yes, I even know some gay people. Are you a mainstream journalist, is this, as you say, avoiding the issue? |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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After seeing that, my first instinct was to try to confirm that the Canadian Institute of Diversity and Inclusion was some sort of joke organization made up by pranksters. It seems like its a real organization though. That's too bad. |
The profile for the Founder and CEO is funny:
http://www.cidi-icdi.ca/team-member/michael-bach/
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Michael Bach is nationally and internationally recognized as a thought leader and subject matter expert in the fields of diversity, inclusion and employment equity, bringing a vast knowledge of leading practices in a live setting to his work. He has deep experience in strategy development, stakeholder engagement, training and development, research, solution development and execution, employee engagement, data analytics, measurement and diversity scorecards, targeted recruiting strategies, marketing and communications, Employee Resource Groups, Diversity Councils, and diversity related legislation (Employment Equity Act, AODA, etc.) among other skills and experiences related to field of diversity and inclusion.
Prior to taking on this role he was the National Director of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion for KPMG in Canada, a role he created and held for the past 7 years. Additionally, Michael completed a 2½ year secondment as the former Deputy Chief Diversity Officer for KPMG International.
At KPMG Michael was responsible for the overarching diversity strategy for the firm’s operations in Canada, including the development and implementation of all diversity related programs and initiatives. During his tenure, KPMG received several prestigious diversity related awards – including being named one of Canada’s Top Employers for Diversity and one of Canada’s Best Employers for New Canadians. KPMG is the only organization that has won both awards in all five years they have been awarded.
In addition, the firm has been named one of Canada’s Top Family Friendly Employers (2003, 2004, 2005, 2009, 2010 and 2013) and the Top 40 Places Gen Y Wants to Work (2009). Regionally, they have received the Best Workplaces for Diversity as part of the Alberta’s Best Workplaces Award (2010), the Recognizing Immigrant Success in Edmonton Award (2010), and the SFU Nancy McKinstry Leadership in Diversity Award (2010).
Over the course of his career, Michael has received repeated recognition for his work, including being named as one of the Women of Influence’s 2012 Canadian Diversity Champions. In 2011 he was honoured as the Diversity Champion with the Catalyst Canada Honours Human Resources/Diversity Leader award. He also received the Women of Influence’s 2011 Canadian Diversity Champions, the 2011 Inspire Award as LGBTQ Person of the Year and the 2011 Out on Bay Street Leaders to be Proud of LGBT Advocate Workplace Award.
In 2010 Michael was honoured by the Toronto Immigrant Employment Council with the 2010 IS Award Canadian HR Reporter Individual Achievement Award. Additionally, in 2009, Michael was honoured as one of the winners of the KPMG CEO Community Excellent Award for his contribution to community.
Michael has a Post Graduate Certificate in Diversity Management from Cornell University and also holds the Cornell Certified Diversity Professional, Advanced Practitioner (CCDP/AP) designation. |
How many buzzwords can fit on the head of a pin. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| Obviously great news that there has been no terrorist attack. If something was going to happen it probably would have happened at the start in order to disrupt the games. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| Obviously great news that there has been no terrorist attack. If something was going to happen it probably would have happened at the start in order to disrupt the games. |
Sailer wrote yesterday about the potential catastrophe of an attack:
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1. If there is a terrorist attack, then Twitter would probably explode with Americans saying, "Ha-ha, Russians, you had it coming!"
2. Russians will hear about the most offensive American comments and take offense.
3. Within a few days, it will emerge that the terrorists had a few-degrees-of-separation connections with the CIA or the National Endowment for Democracy or the like, and/or NATO candidate Georgia, and/or shadowy Russian government agencies. Or all three. |
A problem with dropping hundreds of billions of dollars into "democracy promotion" or similar activities in a very troubled region is that when the troubled region has troubles invariably some of that cash is going to in some way be involved.
Then we have the Saudi connection:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10266957/Saudis-offer-Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html
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| As-Safir said Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord. “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” he allegedly said. |
I don't think the Saudi's dumb enough to order an attack but if one of their Chechen proxies did cause problems the Russians would likely consider retaliation. What would that look like etc? No idea. I agree with Catman. I am relieved that nothing has happened so far.
None the less, things over there are getting very dangerous:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-12/judge-who-jailed-ukraine-protesters-shot-dead |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| Because when I think of solid sports reporting I go to Tablet |
Especially when we're talking about the Winter Olympics - they really have their finger on the pulse. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| My only real complaint right now is the poor ice conditions for hockey. It is a combination warmer temperatures outside and so much hockey being played in a single day. Lots of snow on the ice as the games goes on. Causing a lack of scoring. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:01 am Post subject: |
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http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303775504579392821615729590
Levy, fresh from advocating war in Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc etc and demanding massive third world immigration into France, and advocating liberal degenerate "freedom" for the EU, and neo-liberalism, etc etc, all using the language of universal morality and such:
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Pull Out of Sochi to Protest the Kiev Massacre
It is absurd, if not obscene, to pretend that there are two Putins.
Bernard-Henri Lévy
Two images from Wednesday compete for space in people's minds.
The image of the immaculate snow of Sochi crisscrossed by the world's top skiers to the cheers of the international crowd. And that of the bloodied snow around the barricades of Maidan, Kiev's Independence Square, after special units of the Ukrainian government, with Vladimir Putin's seal of approval, attacked the protesters there. At least 26 people were killed, and hundreds were injured—yet the international response has been indifference.
Telling ourselves that we're used to this sort of thing doesn't do any good.
It's no use reminding ourselves of the abandonment of the 130,000 Syrians put to death through the murderous madness of Bashar Assad, backed by the very same Mr. Putin; of the innumerable Chechens "kicked into the crapper," in the elegant phrase used by the same master of Russia and its borderlands. It's no use knowing, as we have for some time now—since republican Spain was abandoned in the 1930s, since Central Europe was sacrificed in the 1940s, and since the Polish revolt in the early 1980s was kept at arm's length—that democracy never defends its values.
There is in this overlay of images, in the nearly perfect concordance of the two ceremonies—that of the Olympic celebration in full swing and that of the funeral of the European dream for one of the peoples who still believed in it—something that insults the intelligence and breaks the heart.
A question for the leaders of the European Union— Catherine Ashton, José Manuel Barroso, Martin Schulz and others—whose emblems and flags fly in Sochi and are, at this very moment, being trampled underfoot in Ukraine: Is your place not there in Kiev, in the flaming Maidan, a place that the protesters, for a long while now, have been calling Europe Square?
A suggestion for François Hollande and Barack Obama, the presidents of two permanent members of the United Nations Security Council: An urgent convocation of the Security Council should be prompted by these deaths in Europe, these hundreds of wounded people hounded by special troops who, as we know from observers on the ground, will stop at nothing. Does not this provocation, this cold crime so confidently committed, justify at least a formal notice to the Ukrainian regime and its Kremlin patron?
And finally, a plea to the Olympic committees of the nations present in Sochi, who plod on as if nothing were amiss, deaf and blind to the tragedy unfolding a few hundred kilometers away: At these Games, where the flame symbolizing the Olympic ideal has been purloined by a thug, when the winning athletes playfully bite their medals, this time will not the gold, silver and bronze have the metallic taste of blood? Do you have a thought for that other snow, the bloody snow, the snow that, make no mistake, is front and center in the thoughts of your host?
Do you not see the absurdity—not to say the obscenity—of pretending to believe, up to the last minute of the last day of this ruined Olympiad, that there might be two Putins: Putin the Terrible, who earlier this week issued $2 billion to prop up the regime of his valet Viktor Yanukovych, the Ukrainian president who then unleashed his forces on the Maidan protesters; and the other Putin, strutting across the stage and through the stands, greeting you with the munificence due those who used to be called the gods of the stadium?
These Olympic Games will be over in a few days. Precious little time remains to stop collaborating in what now more than ever seems a grim masquerade.
Precious few hours remain to preserve at least your honor before returning home crowned with a glory that will carry a whiff of abasement.
For those who care about democracy, can we, by pulling out of Sochi—or at least by boycotting the closing ceremony on Sunday—ensure that the XXII Winter Olympics will not go down in history as the Games that were the shame and defeat of Europe? |
The hysterical messianic language is so obnoxious. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| Don't agree with Titus much, but Levy is one of the worst writers everywhere. My first year in Korea the teacher before me had left some book he wrote about America in the apartment. I had never heard of him before, and I didn't yet know where to go to buy English books. I read the first two or so chapters, it's the only book I've ever thrown in the trash in my life. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:36 am Post subject: |
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| I forgot Libya. He was, according to Sarkozy, a major reason why France helped destroy that society. |
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