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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Rockhard wrote: |
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What! That was the first thing I heard after getting off the plane. Koreans think they are geniuses because of their big heads and good math scores. They even falsely believe they invented everything. Feelings of being the superior race[b] and sympathies to master race ideology are strong here. Now I can see how [b]as a white person you wouldn't hear this a lot since in their hierarchy we are above them. But whoa to anyone who isn't white skinned. Still, I will concede this sort of thing has faded over the past ten years as Korea have learned more about the outside world. Koreans also know they need to change in order to assimilate the hundreds of thousands of half-breed children in the countryside. |
Either they feel they ARE "the superior race" or they feel white people are above them but not both.
Yes some Koreans can be racist jerks. Others aren't. You'll find racists and non-racists in every other country on Earth as well. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| You'll find racists and non-racists in every other country on Earth as well. |
Amen! Preach it, brother. That is powerful, powerful stuff. Keep it coming. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Chaparrastique wrote: |
| Hence most westerners claim not to be racist in order to gain social acceptance. |
I agree with this. They not only claim to be racist, they feign emotions and pretend at offense to try to prove it. The fear of being labeled a racist is legitimate given it can have serious impact on both one's career and one's social life, but it's a shame we've decided to go with thought crimes when in reality the important thing is compassion for our fellow men. You don't have to think someone is your strict equal in order to help them, and if you aren't willing to help him when he's in need, it really doesn't matter at all if you think he's your equal or not. |
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Rockhard
Joined: 11 Dec 2013
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Either they feel they ARE "the superior race" or they feel white people are above them but not both.
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They can show deference to whites while still feeling superior to all other races. It's called "hierarchy". It happens to show up quite a bit in Korean culture.
Now stop being such a child and debate like an adult if you want to pick apart my rants. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| A country CAN change a person's opinion about other races, unless you have solid rock-hard evidence proving otherwise? Which you do not, because you are wrong. |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
It also does not mean a country can somehow "make you become racist"... |
Agreed, a country cannot "make you" think anything unless you have no control over your own mind.
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| Parental heritage is the one thing that is hardest to overcome if it led to passing on prejudicial views. |
I think the pressure to align with society has become at least as strong if not stronger than parental.
Hence most westerners claim not to be racist in order to gain social acceptance. |
Bolded part is quite interesting. It does seem to be the case back here in Canada. Political Correctness has swept a lot of crap under the societal rug.
Still, that may be a good thing in some ways because at the very least it purges the public sphere of "open" racism. It is also a pretty insidious process because it allows racism to fester in the dark AND for racist attitudes to continue behind the scenes in areas such as employment.... |
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Stain
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| Chaparrastique wrote: |
| metalhead wrote: |
| A country CAN change a person's opinion about other races, unless you have solid rock-hard evidence proving otherwise? Which you do not, because you are wrong. |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
It also does not mean a country can somehow "make you become racist"... |
Agreed, a country cannot "make you" think anything unless you have no control over your own mind.
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| Parental heritage is the one thing that is hardest to overcome if it led to passing on prejudicial views. |
I think the pressure to align with society has become at least as strong if not stronger than parental.
Hence most westerners claim not to be racist in order to gain social acceptance. |
Bolded part is quite interesting. It does seem to be the case back here in Canada. Political Correctness has swept a lot of crap under the societal rug.
Still, that may be a good thing in some ways because at the very least it purges the public sphere of "open" racism. It is also a pretty insidious process because it allows racism to fester in the dark AND for racist attitudes to continue behind the scenes in areas such as employment.... |
Exactly, racism will always exist for the same reason any opinion exists. Whether it's popular or not, freedom of thought (not the same as freedom of speech), will continue now until the end of the human race. Sad, but true. |
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Jodami
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Homogeneous people? LMAO.
Anyone got the statistics for 2014? Last I heard interracial kids in Korea was rampant. 11%? Surely, Korean mom's/dad's are contributors to one of the highest rates of interracial children in the world. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Rockhard wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Either they feel they ARE "the superior race" or they feel white people are above them but not both.
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They can show deference to whites while still feeling superior to all other races. It's called "hierarchy". It happens to show up quite a bit in Korean culture.
Now stop being such a child and debate like an adult if you want to pick apart my rants. |
"deference to whites"...give me a break. Most Koreans couldn't care less.
Why do you think we hear so many horror stories about being fired, losing pay or being cheated if there was any real deference? |
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Rockhard
Joined: 11 Dec 2013
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| Stain wrote: |
Exactly, racism will always exist for the same reason any opinion exists. Whether it's popular or not, freedom of thought (not the same as freedom of speech), will continue now until the end of the human race. Sad, but true. |
I wonder about that. It was certainly the case that tribalism, or loyalty to one's group and the dehumanization of rival groups, was critical to survival in ancient times. But does it still improve our survival chances or decrease them? If tribalism (racism) doesn't provide a survival advantage anymore than the gene that controls that instinct can cease to function without putting the bearer at a severe disadvantage. Thus, humanity could involve to not have tribalism as one of their instincts.
But then again, open-minded urban liberal types tend not to reproduce themselves, while racist-friendly country types do, so it may be that tribalism does provide a reproductive advantage and will therefore not disappear. |
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metalhead
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| Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
"deference to whites"...give me a break. Most Koreans couldn't care less.
Why do you think we hear so many horror stories about being fired, losing pay or being cheated if there was any real deference? |
Man you've really lost the ability to form solid arguments and think in a logical manner, must be the lack of calcium and nutrients in all those school lunches you've been eating, stuck in the same dastardly position for over a decade now without a clue about what living in the rest of the world is actually like. I would find it sad but it's you, so no - I am glad to see your brain slowly but surely rot and decay. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| Jodami wrote: |
Homogeneous people? LMAO.
Anyone got the statistics for 2014? Last I heard interracial kids in Korea was rampant. 11%? Surely, Korean mom's/dad's are contributors to one of the highest rates of interracial children in the world. |
...and if Korea treats them like outcasts or social lepers, they'll grow up to become criminals and start gangs. Koreans in Japan are a great example of this. America have any minority problems or gang problems?
Koreans in Japan find great acceptance in such groups as Yakuza, but not in many other places. Let's hope Korea is smart about their mixed race kids. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Jodami wrote: |
Homogeneous people? LMAO.
Anyone got the statistics for 2014? Last I heard interracial kids in Korea was rampant. 11%? Surely, Korean mom's/dad's are contributors to one of the highest rates of interracial children in the world. |
...and if Korea treats them like outcasts or social lepers, they'll grow up to become criminals and start gangs. Koreans in Japan are a great example of this. America have any minority problems or gang problems?
Koreans in Japan find great acceptance in such groups as Yakuza, but not in many other places. Let's hope Korea is smart about their mixed race kids. |
Could be chancey. While there isn't too much in the way of cohesive mixed family communities ala ethnic enclaves in the US or other countries, often these children come from rural farming families, and thus as lower income families, with less-educated parents, are more at risk for problems such as parental abuse, underfunded education, a less intellectually stimulating household, being a social outcast based not just on race but economic status, etc. |
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World Traveler
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
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| Jodami wrote: |
Homogeneous people? LMAO.
Anyone got the statistics for 2014? Last I heard interracial kids in Korea was rampant. 11%? Surely, Korean mom's/dad's are contributors to one of the highest rates of interracial children in the world. |
...and if Korea treats them like outcasts or social lepers, they'll grow up to become criminals and start gangs. Koreans in Japan are a great example of this. America have any minority problems or gang problems?
Koreans in Japan find great acceptance in such groups as Yakuza, but not in many other places. Let's hope Korea is smart about their mixed race kids. |
Could be chancey. While there isn't too much in the way of cohesive mixed family communities ala ethnic enclaves in the US or other countries, often these children come from rural farming families, and thus as lower income families, with less-educated parents, are more at risk for problems such as parental abuse, underfunded education, a less intellectually stimulating household, being a social outcast based not just on race but economic status, etc. |
Do you think that the kids with parents from different nationality backgrounds are more or less likely to be 'social outcasts' than those with the same under this criteria? |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Jodami wrote: |
Homogeneous people? LMAO.
Anyone got the statistics for 2014? Last I heard interracial kids in Korea was rampant. 11%? Surely, Korean mom's/dad's are contributors to one of the highest rates of interracial children in the world. |
...and if Korea treats them like outcasts or social lepers, they'll grow up to become criminals and start gangs. Koreans in Japan are a great example of this. America have any minority problems or gang problems?
Koreans in Japan find great acceptance in such groups as Yakuza, but not in many other places. Let's hope Korea is smart about their mixed race kids. |
Could be chancey. While there isn't too much in the way of cohesive mixed family communities ala ethnic enclaves in the US or other countries, often these children come from rural farming families, and thus as lower income families, with less-educated parents, are more at risk for problems such as parental abuse, underfunded education, a less intellectually stimulating household, being a social outcast based not just on race but economic status, etc. |
Do you think that the kids with parents from different nationality backgrounds are more or less likely to be 'social outcasts' than those with the same under this criteria? |
Well, it depends on income level and nationality. First, I'd say that attractiveness can be a huge factor. An attractive, poor, rural, kid from a mixed family will have a much easier time. If not they are certainly much more likely to become a social outcast. As income rises they might still face teasing but will probably have a solid nucleus of friends, again dependent on attractiveness and being sociable. If their families are relatively wealthy, they may even end up getting the "exotic" and "unique" label, which while flattering on the surface can cause internal pressure to be exceptional. This is just what I've seen in my comparatively rural school which nonetheless has a range of international families.
Well, I couldn't fully understand the cartoon, but it certainly doesn't seem to be painting a flattering portrait of Koreans either. |
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