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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Tesla is not a multinational company. You don't seem to understand what a multinational is. |
Tesla should in no way, shape, or form be used as an example of the norm in the auto industry. What percentage of the market does Tesla have? They are one Pintoing away from going belly-up.
On the other hand, Ford, GM, Daimler, Honda, Toyota, Renault, Hyundai, etc. are multinational car companies. What do you think of when you think of the auto industry?
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| Everyone using a smartphone is benefiting from IBM's invention, while only a segment of those people are benefiting from whatever incremental innovation individual manufacturers add on. |
No, they don't benefit from it until they have it in their hand. If what they have in their hand doesn't say IBM, then there is a gap between the drawing board and the physical product.
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| because no one has yet made it clear how "these products" help people. And if they do help people, as you argue, how do they help anyone any better that the products that they replaced did? In other words, how has the incremental innovation truly made someone's life better? In plain English, how does a 60" LED HDTV help someone? |
By providing news, information, relaxation and entertainment. It does it better than the other one by perhaps causing less eye strain, being more affordable, or having a clearer picture and better sound.
Smartphones enable you to access information, save time, perform tasks on the go, call for help through multiple networks, share live events, etc.
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| Be that as it may, hopefully you can see the substantial difference between radical and incremental innovation and which is the real driver of change. |
Both are great. I don't see any reason to poo-poo one besides inner frustration at something. I still don't see how this makes you angry.
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Maybe you can rent or borrow a Corvette, or Mustang, or 911, or even a VW GTI and drive away from your apologista blues. But no, you'll probably argue those cars aren't up to your standards and that you'll stick with your Tico.
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All of those cars are from multinational companies and share engineering with other firms in other countries. Your simplistic knowledge of the auto industry is obvious. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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half of this thread seems to be bickering and the other half seems to be morons who think that they are smarter and have more resources at their disposal than the analysts at bloomberg.
*popcorn* |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Tesla is not a multinational company. You don't seem to understand what a multinational is. |
Tesla should in no way, shape, or form be used as an example of the norm in the auto industry. What percentage of the market does Tesla have? They are one Pintoing away from going belly-up.
On the other hand, Ford, GM, Daimler, Honda, Toyota, Renault, Hyundai, etc. are multinational car companies. What do you think of when you think of the auto industry?
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| Everyone using a smartphone is benefiting from IBM's invention, while only a segment of those people are benefiting from whatever incremental innovation individual manufacturers add on. |
No, they don't benefit from it until they have it in their hand. If what they have in their hand doesn't say IBM, then there is a gap between the drawing board and the physical product.
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| because no one has yet made it clear how "these products" help people. And if they do help people, as you argue, how do they help anyone any better that the products that they replaced did? In other words, how has the incremental innovation truly made someone's life better? In plain English, how does a 60" LED HDTV help someone? |
By providing news, information, relaxation and entertainment. It does it better than the other one by perhaps causing less eye strain, being more affordable, or having a clearer picture and better sound.
Smartphones enable you to access information, save time, perform tasks on the go, call for help through multiple networks, share live events, etc.
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| Be that as it may, hopefully you can see the substantial difference between radical and incremental innovation and which is the real driver of change. |
Both are great. I don't see any reason to poo-poo one besides inner frustration at something. I still don't see how this makes you angry.
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Maybe you can rent or borrow a Corvette, or Mustang, or 911, or even a VW GTI and drive away from your apologista blues. But no, you'll probably argue those cars aren't up to your standards and that you'll stick with your Tico.
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All of those cars are from multinational companies and share engineering with other firms in other countries. Your simplistic knowledge of the auto industry is obvious. |
"By providing news, information, relaxation and entertainment" Just the same as any other TV. Moreover, I think it's farfetched to say television has been of some great benefit to society.
The same goes for smartphones. Do you think people waste more time playing games and watching dramas on smartphones than they save with them? How many Korean students have been misinformed by the dictionaries they access via smartphones? Is a person dependent on a smartphone being helped or handicapped?
As for contacting emergency services, that doesn't require a smartphone.
Your one attempt to address the topic--innovation--is completely illogical. If IBM had not invented the smartphone, no one would be selling or using one. The incremental innovation that comes from Korea is dependent on the radical innovation coming from the West. Why are you so angry about that?
As for your multinational argument, it's meaningless and off base. Where the radical innovation is coming from is what matters. Besides, why all the Tesla hate? You posted you drink imported beer. Certainly you can appreciate a fine automobile, even if it's a bit too innovative for you.
Have a Coke (mulitnational) and a smile! |
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geldedgoat
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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[Achievement] in Korea is incremental as opposed to the radical innovation that has come from the West and even Japan.
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So what? |
So it's not innovative. So your first post here was made in bad faith, and the article it was based on was ill-suited to gauge any measure of innovation. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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half of this thread seems to be bickering and the other half seems to be morons who think that they are smarter and have more resources at their disposal than the analysts at bloomberg.
*popcorn* |
Where does this post fall into the scheme of things? |
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