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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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 Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:15 pm Post subject: We win; you lose! |
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To all my American friends, drown your sorrows. We are a superpower of hockey. We won the gold in Vancouver, we won it in Sochi, and, if I'm still here, I'll see it happen again, in person, in Pyeongchang. Best of luck.... 
Mwa ha ha ha ha ha ha...... |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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DaeguNL
Joined: 08 Sep 2009
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and yet it sure has been nice picking up a total of 7 gold medals between the Men/Women's teams in the past 4 olympics, beating the American women in the final 3 times, and the men twice during that streak (lets not forget the men's semi final this year!)
Canada IS hockey, thats why 70-80% of those American cup winners are full of canucks! |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: We win; you lose! |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
To all my American friends, drown your sorrows. We are a superpower of hockey. We won the gold in Vancouver, we won it in Sochi, and, if I'm still here, I'll see it happen again, in person, in Pyeongchang. Best of luck....
Mwa ha ha ha ha ha ha...... |
You are how old? |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: We win; you lose! |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
To all my American friends, drown your sorrows. We are a superpower of hockey. We won the gold in Vancouver, we won it in Sochi, and, if I'm still here, I'll see it happen again, in person, in Pyeongchang. Best of luck....
Mwa ha ha ha ha ha ha...... |
Why are you addressing this post to Americans? Hockey is the 4th or 5th most popular team sport in the US. Why not go after Russia, Sweden, or Finland where hockey is considered the national sport. Please explain this Canadian fascination with constantly measuring themselves against the US. |
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greatunknown
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: We win; you lose! |
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| radcon wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
To all my American friends, drown your sorrows. We are a superpower of hockey. We won the gold in Vancouver, we won it in Sochi, and, if I'm still here, I'll see it happen again, in person, in Pyeongchang. Best of luck....
Mwa ha ha ha ha ha ha...... |
Why are you addressing this post to Americans? Hockey is the 4th or 5th most popular team sport in the US. Why not go after Russia, Sweden, or Finland where hockey is considered the national sport. Please explain this Canadian fascination with constantly measuring themselves against the US. |
As a Canadian I agree with this. Why do so many of my fellow Canadians insist that our coutries are rivals? Any rivalry is surely one sided as all of my American friends know little and care even less about Canada and aside from the occasional joke about maple syrup or that goofy accent some areas of Canada are known for they absoloutly never have anything negative to say.
I never saw a single post or heard a single comment from an American boasting that they destroyed us on the podium in London
Feel proud Canada! We did well at Sochi and we clinched the gold in our national sport! Excellent effort! |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Are Canadians given nationalistic/America hating brainwashing from a young age at school or what? What is causing it?
| 3DR wrote: |
| There's a thread on that other forum where Canadians say how upset they are when people mistake them for being American. They made it seem as if it was the worst insult ever. |
| I'm With You wrote: |
| Over the years I've learned, much to my surprise, that Canadians are indeed nationalistic and quite self-righteous. |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Americans were playing the Czech (I think), in Edmonton. There was absolutely no love for the Americans. Anytime they touched the puck it was all boos from 15,000 people... I'd imagine they would've gotten the same treatment in Calgary. And these players are kids, mostly aged 17-19, even some 15/16 year olds. Kind of felt sorry for them, yet not really, since they were Americans... lol |
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I didn't realize just how nationalistic Canadians were.
I got so sick of Koreans boasting about Korea and being so damned concerned with other country's opinions (or lack thereof) of them. I always brought it up with my gf and pointed it out whenever I could.
THEN we went to Canada and she gave me a taste of my own medicine. Now, I love my country and I think Canada is a genuinely nice place, but we are way too proud of ourselves sometimes. It's like we try to take credit for the beautiful landscapes and whatnot.
One example that stands out for me was when my gf and I went into Chapters (a book store) and they had posters all over the store proclaiming that "The world needs more Canada" or something to that effect. |
| Ukon wrote: |
| How come Canadians are so vocal and patriotic online? And from what I've read overseas too! I can remember dozens of patriotic canadians online slagging off on every other nation(US in particular), bringing up irrelvant History of Canadian nobody cares about(like contributions during WWII, heroic sacrifices made during battle of ______), or stories of Canucks making everyone aware they're from Canada. |
| IPayInCash wrote: |
I think Koreans just have little man syndrome. Similar to so many Canadians that needlessly bash America because America is much more famous than Canada and Canada gets less attention globally. I've met a LOT of Canadians in Korea that simply hate America no matter how hard I try to explain all of that stuff isn't important, and who cares which country gets more attention?
With Koreans, it's being that small country tucked in between Japan and China that feels the need to validate itself to still feel relevant. I understand it because I've been to Canada and immediately insulted because I was an American. Koreans do the same by not wasting any time to tell you how oily Chinese food is, how dirty their people are, or how awful Japan is for their war history and how "they never apologized" (show them a list of war apologies by Japan only to hear "they never meant it!" next). Same BS. Different continent. |
| I'm With You wrote: |
I work with so many nationalistic Canadians over the years that it has become a running gag with those non-Canadian teachers at work.
The Canadian nationalism in Korea is creepy and they generate a lot of ill will by their nationalist feelings - especially towards their big brothers, the Americans. But when you're a Canadian expat and you're away from home, that mixture of beer and homesickness is a very potent.
You can see why others wouldn't want to be around that. |
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Taelan28
Joined: 14 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:48 am Post subject: Re: We win; you lose! |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
To all my American friends, drown your sorrows. We are a superpower of hockey. We won the gold in Vancouver, we won it in Sochi, and, if I'm still here, I'll see it happen again, in person, in Pyeongchang. Best of luck....
Mwa ha ha ha ha ha ha...... |
hey thats cool man. you won and you JUST won. Soak it in. Your words are pretty benign and you ought to have your moment. |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| You beat us in a sport we don't even play. I have never put on ice skates, nor do I personally know any American who has and that includes the white dudes. To us, skating is what women, Brian Boitano, and Canadians do. I'm still wondering how we beat Canada in a men's ice hockey game in 2010. How did that happen? I'm assuming we sent Brian Boitano up there and he cleaned house. |
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joelove
Joined: 12 May 2011
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
Are Canadians given nationalistic/America hating brainwashing from a young age at school or what? What is causing it?
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A fine question. What causes nationalism? I am sure you can go to any country in the world and see it in abundance. What causes it? Why is it important to identify yourself with a group, and why do you need to belong? You can pursue this question and perhaps end up nowhere, or maybe you might see it's the mind seeking some sort of psychological comfort. It is comforting, in a way, to belong to groups, isn't it? I wonder if there is a single person in the world who doesn't seek this comfort in some way. It is part of education and training, isn't it? We are surrounded by flags and other reminders that we are divided into countries and regions inside countries. In fact we are, as surely as you were born in a certain town in some province or state, just by luck of the draw. You are taught as a child to take pride in where you are from, and you become quite attached to the culture, or maybe "attached" isn't the right word for it, because it's actually who you are, and there is no difference between you and the society; it's what you know, and it gives you comfort because it is familiar. People all over the world are after this comfort or security. You can see how stupid it all is, but is that enough to not be nationalistic? Can you just intellectually deny that it has deeper psychological roots than mere words saying it is silly or foolish?
I suppose at some point in history tribes had to protect themselves from one another, competing for land, food, shelter. They fought to survive. I don't really know much about all that, but maybe it's where it all began. They became distrustful of strangers, members of other tribes. Of course their physical security was essential to survival, we need the food and shelter. Somehow this spilled into an urge for psychological security, if such a thing exists. Who knows if it does? But all over the world you have people who are fully convinced emotionally that they are a particular nationality. It's not just a fact for us, it takes root in the psyche too. There's some heavy social conditioning going on at all times that teaches us to be proud to be where we are from. It's encouraged to be nationalistic. It provides benefits such as praise from others. Then it also becomes something to defend. Now you are not defending your physical security anymore, most of us already have that. You are defending an idea. This idea is central to your identity and you will kill for it if necessary. That sounds extreme, but what else is going on in the world?
So, if we can see all this, we must wonder why we carry on with the same old way of living as divided and fragmented people. Part of us knows we are all just people, just human beings, but that's not good enough for most of us. We want more than that. We've invented nationalism as something to make us feel comfortable and specific. We don't see how dangerous and violent it is. If we saw that, that it is as destructive as a fire, we would not touch it. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| If hockey was as popular in the US as it is in Canada....the US would be winning gold every Olympic. Just the facts. |
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
| If hockey was as popular in the US as it is in Canada....the US would be winning gold every Olympic. Just the facts. |
Of the 30 NHL franchises 23 are situated in the US. I don't know how you can say hockey isn't popular there. |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Scorpion wrote: |
| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
| If hockey was as popular in the US as it is in Canada....the US would be winning gold every Olympic. Just the facts. |
Of the 30 NHL franchises 23 are situated in the US. I don't know how you can say hockey isn't popular there. |
And yet only 25% of NHL players are from the US. Dallas ,Texas has an NHL franchise, but not many little Texan kids are dreaming of a future as a hockey player. |
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
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| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
| If hockey was as popular in the US as it is in Canada....the US would be winning gold every Olympic. Just the facts. |
Of the 30 NHL franchises 23 are situated in the US. I don't know how you can say hockey isn't popular there. |
And yet only 25% of NHL players are from the US. Dallas ,Texas has an NHL franchise, but not many little Texan kids are dreaming of a future as a hockey player. |
Who's going to the games? Canadians commuting down twice a week from Edmonton? |
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augustine
Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
| Scorpion wrote: |
| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
| If hockey was as popular in the US as it is in Canada....the US would be winning gold every Olympic. Just the facts. |
Of the 30 NHL franchises 23 are situated in the US. I don't know how you can say hockey isn't popular there. |
And yet only 25% of NHL players are from the US. Dallas ,Texas has an NHL franchise, but not many little Texan kids are dreaming of a future as a hockey player. |
There are probably a lot more than you think, but you're right as usual, there is no comparison. Hockey in Canada is more like hs football in a place like Texas, which annoys me since it seems to teeter on the edge of pedofilia with some of the wannabe scouts who track the output of 16 year old boys.
It's a regional popularity+weather+ cost issue to me. There were tons of Dallas youth teams with extremely high level players when I played because it's a huge ass city that isn't lacking in rich white people. But I would go to camps in Michigan and NY and some of those cats were on another level since they had so much more exposure against greater competition and I'm guessing a much cheaper bill at the end of the day. But that's all very obvious. 15-20 weekend tournaments a year at least with the closest being 4 hours away? I'd tell my kid to go screw off and play a poor person sport like soccer.
Anyway, we'd play in a very high level tournament in Colorado every year and I remember watching the now US Olympic team captain zach parise play when he was maybe 16 or so, I just remember being younger than him and his Minnesota prep school team being some mega powerhouse. I also however remember thinking to myself, "yep, don't think you're going to make it in this game, augustine". They have hockey prep schools up north and those dont exist in the southern US.
I'll try to get to the point. I looked at the US roster and literally all of them except for two were from 5 states: Wisconsin, NY, Minnesota, Connecticut, and Michigan. And one of the US players not from those states was actually born in Canada, and his dad and two uncles all played in the NHL. So that just about says it all. There are few places where it is able to thrive successfully, meaning, produce professional players.
If the US creates some inner city youth hockey program and gets black people playing, consider it over. But the fact remains that this is pretty much all Canada has. Hockey is not very popular in comparison even if the NHL sets up successful franchises in big sunbelt cities like Atlanta, Dallas, San Jose, Nashville or wherever. And the last thing I would expect is for those markets to start churning out NHL players anytime soon, unless their parents want to pay for college twice by sending them to some elite prep school in Michigan when they're 14. Hockey will always be one of my favorite sports, but like someone else said, it's 4th on the list for nearly all Americans. We have better shit, and it's really the only thing Canada is good at. Besides exporting esl teachers to korea, of course. Damn, scorpion is Canadian too? I was fooled by that one since he writes so well. |
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