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Steelrails
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I recall a Flight Attendant flipping out at a passenger, having a beer and leaving the plane on the tarmac. He was later arrested and convicted. Was not aware of a pilot issue with JetBlue. |
Ahhh, the Tarmac Runner. A classic. Bonus points for remembering to grab the booze. |
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dairyairy
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PatrickGHBusan
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| Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
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| The JetBlue pilot who flipped out faces 20 years in prison. American pilots have been sentenced to prison. |
Pilot or Flight Attendant?
I recall a Flight Attendant flipping out at a passenger, having a beer and leaving the plane on the tarmac. He was later arrested and convicted. Was not aware of a pilot issue with JetBlue. |
Pilot. |
Two separate incidents then. |
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lemak
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Asiana should back off on the whole TV network suing business. They're doing a lot more to damage their reputation and doing a pretty stellar job of keeping themselves and their crash a top news story than were they to apologize, promise an investigation, improved standards and to keep their yappy traps shut.
The standard response to the whole KTVU cock up and resultant lawsuit over damaged reputations seems to be "How does a network making up some stupid names damage their reputation any more than the wreckage of their plane and blood stains on the tarmac?"
Even last night's episode of The Colbert Report had a few minutes on the crash, and Asiana for the most part were the butt of the jokes. They certainly haven't done themselves any favors with this lawsuit. |
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diver
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dairyairy
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| Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Asiana should back off on the whole TV network suing business. They're doing a lot more to damage their reputation and doing a pretty stellar job of keeping themselves and their crash a top news story than were they to apologize, promise an investigation, improved standards and to keep their yappy traps shut.
The standard response to the whole KTVU cock up and resultant lawsuit over damaged reputations seems to be "How does a network making up some stupid names damage their reputation any more than the wreckage of their plane and blood stains on the tarmac?"
Even last night's episode of The Colbert Report had a few minutes on the crash, and Asiana for the most part were the butt of the jokes. They certainly haven't done themselves any favors with this lawsuit. |
Their confrontational attitude towards the NTSB is not making them any friends, either. |
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diver
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| Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Asiana should back off on the whole TV network suing business. They're doing a lot more to damage their reputation and doing a pretty stellar job of keeping themselves and their crash a top news story than were they to apologize, promise an investigation, improved standards and to keep their yappy traps shut.
The standard response to the whole KTVU cock up and resultant lawsuit over damaged reputations seems to be "How does a network making up some stupid names damage their reputation any more than the wreckage of their plane and blood stains on the tarmac?"
Even last night's episode of The Colbert Report had a few minutes on the crash, and Asiana for the most part were the butt of the jokes. They certainly haven't done themselves any favors with this lawsuit. |
Their confrontational attitude towards the NTSB is not making them any friends, either. |
Which is why I think they are not suing the NTSB, only the TV station.
The whole thing is a giant cock-up. I see that the TV station promoted the NTSB summer intern to an "NTSB official" during their mea culpa. Or maybe the NTSB demoted an official to "summer intern" during THEIR mea culpa...
And while the TV station should be bale to prove they fact-checked (NTSB confirms the call) - they STILL SAID THOSE NAMES ON AIR! I don't know if I should laugh or cry. |
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PatrickGHBusan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Lawsuit has been dropped already....that was predictable.  |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| diver wrote: |
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| lemak wrote: |
Asiana should back off on the whole TV network suing business. They're doing a lot more to damage their reputation and doing a pretty stellar job of keeping themselves and their crash a top news story than were they to apologize, promise an investigation, improved standards and to keep their yappy traps shut.
The standard response to the whole KTVU cock up and resultant lawsuit over damaged reputations seems to be "How does a network making up some stupid names damage their reputation any more than the wreckage of their plane and blood stains on the tarmac?"
Even last night's episode of The Colbert Report had a few minutes on the crash, and Asiana for the most part were the butt of the jokes. They certainly haven't done themselves any favors with this lawsuit. |
Their confrontational attitude towards the NTSB is not making them any friends, either. |
Which is why I think they are not suing the NTSB, only the TV station.
The whole thing is a giant cock-up. I see that the TV station promoted the NTSB summer intern to an "NTSB official" during their mea culpa. Or maybe the NTSB demoted an official to "summer intern" during THEIR mea culpa...
And while the TV station should be bale to prove they fact-checked (NTSB confirms the call) - they STILL SAID THOSE NAMES ON AIR! I don't know if I should laugh or cry. |
I confess I laughed. What makes it even more unbelievable is it was in a metro area with one of the largest Asian populations in the USA. |
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PatrickGHBusan
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Well it is possible that this whole incident was orcherstrated by AES and its evil allies....
hear me out...
Crack operatives from AES were smuggled to the US in containers, evaded border checks and then went into sleep cell mode. Then when the time was right, one of them was activated. He was working at a wayguk TV station in the US. He cracked into the stations mainframe and modified the prompter so that the foreigner reading the news would "look bad". This was coordinated with Korean news and when they received the code word from the operative, they activated the propaganda machine to tar and feather foreigners.
All part of a nefarious and sinister world wide plot to make wayguks look bad...
Thankfully I built my anti-AES bunker years ago...I am safe.
Did you? |
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dairyairy
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Asiana Airlines fined $500,000 for response to San Francisco crash
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-asiana-airlines-fined-20140225,0,3756305.story#axzz2uNtyA3Pc
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Asiana Airlines has been fined $500,000 for failing to assist passengers and their families following last year's crash in San Francisco, federal transportation officials announced Tuesday, noting that it took up to five days for the airline to contact family members of those onboard and to provide other services required by federal law.
In a statement, the U.S. Department of Transportation said the Korean airline did not "adhere to the assurances in its family assistance plan" -- various services foreign airlines are required to provide passengers and their families to ensure prompt assistance during major aircraft incidents.
The fine was the first of its kind, the agency said.
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In a statement, Asiana Airlines said it provided "extensive support to the passengers and their families following the accident and will continue to do so."]
Asiana Airlines could not immediately be reached for comment.
Three people were killed and more than 180 of the 307 passengers and crew members were injured when the Boeing 777 clipped a sea wall and slammed into a runway at San Francisco International Airport. A National Transportation Safety Board investigation into the July 6 crash is ongoing.
The Department of Transportation said that for a day after the crash, the Korean airline didn't "widely publicize" a telephone number for family members of the passengers, and that the only number generally available was its toll-free reservation line.
"The reservations line did not include a separate menu option for calls related to the crash and callers were required to navigate through cumbersome automated menus before being connected to an Asiana employee," the Department of Transportation's statement said.
Further, the agency said, it took the airline two full days to successfully contact the families of only three-quarters of the passengers, and five days to contact several of the families.
Overall, the agency said Asiana Airlines did not have adequate resources to carry out its family assistance plan, noting it took two days for the airline to send a "sufficient number of trained personnel" to San Francisco and that it "initially lacked an adequate number of staff" who could speak the same language as the passengers aboard the flight.
The agency said the airline also did not have a pre-existing contract to clean passenger property and return it.
All in all, the agency said, it took Asiana Airlines five days after the crash to get the necessary resources to carry out all of its response plan.
“In the very rare event of a crash, airlines have a responsibility to provide their full support to help passengers and their families by following all the elements of their family assistance plans,” U.S. Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said in the statement. “The last thing families and passengers should have to worry about at such a stressful time is how to get information from their carrier.”
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atwood
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Thanks for the update, dairy.
Poor communications in an emergency is a serious failing. The bit about not having translators is a little surprising considering how many tourists are visiting Korea these days. They'll need to be ready for the Winter Olympics. |
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