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AsiaESLbound



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:19 am    Post subject: Wrongly hospitalized into foul conditions Reply with quote

Be careful with seeing hospital doctors over a flu, cold, or other conditions that's not a critical situation like heart attack or bad accident injury, because they can order you to admit into a hospital saying you have some serious condition like an infectious disease such as TB or HIV when you don't have allowing for an oddball nut case doctor to control you for a few days as happened to me. Needless to say, this terrified me and caused me unnecessary drama when a quack said I had TB yet I didn't have. He admitted 4 days later upon my release he knew I didn't have TB all along and didn't have me on TB drugs as he had me thinking. The hospital conditions were deplorable. (see below) Even though I'm well, he actually mumbled it would be OK if I wanted to stay longer with it being clear in his attitude and personality he wishes for me to fail. This infuriates me to no end. This was a downright mean thing to do to me exercised by a narcisist doctor with an inferiority complex.

I seen aforementioned quack this past Monday morning at a small government hospital in my small town because I was experiencing flu and cold symptoms longer than I should have that was obviously only a bacteria infection. While the antibiotics fully cleared me up inside of 2 days, I didn't need to be hospitalized nor told or suggested I was a very ill man when I'm healthy and my tests checked out. On Monday afternoon in his office, he acted like and insinuated I had lung cancer and then said I had TB tuberculosis and that I must admit into the hospital for proper treatment so he had me call my co-teacher and talked to her who was then charged full of drama. After having a chest CT, blood test, chest xray, and sputum test he was telling me I had TB yet I'm negative nor did I have TB's symptoms of coughing up bloody sputum mucous with chest pain nor any sign of serious conditions. I had a touch of bacterial pneumonia causing some cloudy area in the xray image and for me to feel extremely tired, but the CT image clearly showed healthy lung tissue so it was obvious I had a bacterial infection simply needing a course of antibiotics.

Even though nothing serious was going on with me nor was I in critical condition of any sort, I was admitted into the hospital by a quak doctors order late Monday afternoon, hooked up to IV, and given very powerful antibiotics intravaneously that worked very quickly inside of only 1 day to make me feel perfectly good again. Doctor was telling me I was going to have to stay until next Wednesday and I'd have to be on drugs for 6 months. I was in horror I'd lose my job, get sucked dry of money, and just going stir crazy with the appalling conditions and the fact I needed out rightfully so. It was harrowing and humbling to say the least, but I was diplomatic and respectful as much as I could be where I did not bad mouth anyone nor threaten anyone as much as these people angered me with passive aggressive BS and low quality work.

The conditions of this hospital are disrespectful to put it nicely. The bathroom drain was plugged so the room flooded out when I showered requiring a nurse aid to mop for an hour, the bathroom floor was black mold, no internet nor Wifi was possible, no laundry service is available, no bath towels are offered, a nurse aid was going to inject air into my veins until I stopped her because she didn't know how to hold the syringe, the food was horrible, and they wouldn't even remove my dinner trays full of dishes from the room after each meal requiring me to carry it in one hand while pushing an IV pole all the way down a hall. I was made to wear the same clothes for 3 days straight and was refused a clean set of hospital garment. The old people stank to high heavens with rotten filthy stench so no one is helping them keep any hygiene. This is completely nasty conditions, unethical, and low class. It is truly a disaster due to a lack of work ethic, lack of professionalism, and a severe lack of basic services. I frightenly lost all trust and was scared for my life a cross contamination was going to happen with injections and IV stuff so I'm hopeful nothing was done to me that I don't yet know about. There is a severe lack of cleaning services and they didn't want to do anything. No one seemed to care about anything or anyone and ice cold attitudes with a severe lack of attention to detail.

In the end, it all costed 350,000 won with NHIC and I feel I need my money back or most of it. I also feel I deserve an apology, but seen they coldly refused yet it was obvious they are wrong and I could see in their eyes they knew it. I expressed today to my co-teachers I'm angry and need an explaination and an apology or I need to file a formal complaint. They had the gald to tell me to not complain about anything Korean. I was told not to complain, obviously to guard the nationalistic pride and avoid losing face. Needless to say, I won't do another contract in Korea after nearly completing 4 of them, having many good memories, and a best friend for years who is also Korean.

Just a heads up on taking those easy to land country and small town jobs. Be especially careful in rural small town areas, particularly in Gyeongsangnam-do and Gyeongsangbuk-do where all locals and co-teachers will tell you they are from Daegu for this means they are conservative right wing and will not be nice to you nor all that fun to live and work around. The conservatives do not want foreigners here, but have to allow it to go on since the government says so for the kids though operate in strange unpleasant ways like I experienced. You'll know if you see it or when you see it when dealing with people.
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BigBuds



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:42 am    Post subject: Re: Wrongly hospitalized into foul conditions Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:


Just a heads up on taking those easy to land country and small town jobs. Be especially careful in rural small town areas, particularly in Gyeongsangnam-do and Gyeongsangbuk-do where all locals and co-teachers will tell you they are from Daegu for this means they are conservative right wing and will not be nice to you nor all that fun to live and work around. The conservatives do not want foreigners here, but have to allow it to go on since the government says so for the kids though operate in strange unpleasant ways like I experienced. You'll know if you see it or when you see it when dealing with people.


Sorry to hear about your bad experience but this last bit is a crock of shite!

I've lived and done business in Gyeongsangnamdo for 13 years. I've met plenty of genuinely friendly Korean people and no one says they're from Daegu unless there actually from Daegu. I've met very few Koreans who've come from Daegu.



Maybe it's you that causes this unfriendly reaction from people.
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AsiaESLbound



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:18 am    Post subject: Re: Wrongly hospitalized into foul conditions Reply with quote

BigBuds wrote:
AsiaESLbound wrote:


Just a heads up on taking those easy to land country and small town jobs. Be especially careful in rural small town areas, particularly in Gyeongsangnam-do and Gyeongsangbuk-do where all locals and co-teachers will tell you they are from Daegu for this means they are conservative right wing and will not be nice to you nor all that fun to live and work around. The conservatives do not want foreigners here, but have to allow it to go on since the government says so for the kids though operate in strange unpleasant ways like I experienced. You'll know if you see it or when you see it when dealing with people.


Sorry to hear about your bad experience but this last bit is a crock of shite!

I've lived and done business in Gyeongsangnamdo for 13 years. I've met plenty of genuinely friendly Korean people and no one says they're from Daegu unless there actually from Daegu. I've met very few Koreans who've come from Daegu.



Maybe it's you that causes this unfriendly reaction from people.


Dude. Changwon is cool and totally different as I know that area and people. It's a big newly developed modern city with a university and forward thinking mindset. I wanted to return and be in Changwon city itself for I like them and have a good friend from there.

Let me ask you? How can about 40 people speaking some English in rural Gyeongsangbuk-do all tell me they are from Daegu and sometimes mentioning, "saenuri."

This foul hospital and doctor stuff is something I will simply have to put behind since I'm OK and they'll never admit mistake in a 1000 years so it's not worth asking after I've already complained and asked for my money back as apology. I'm lucky to be OK and have the paid sick days. You'd never see something like this in Changwon and other cities for sure.
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Chaparrastique



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: Wrongly hospitalized into foul conditions Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
a nurse aid was going to inject air into my veins until I stopped her because she didn't know how to hold the syringe


Yep.. quite often they will get one of their trainees to practice on you. Watch everything they do.

Also the Doctors here can be uneccesarily rough and clumsy in the way they handle you.

The way ajosshis slam doors and throw around furniture is basically the same level of care a doctor applies to the injured body parts of his patients.
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next time just google your health problem.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:47 am    Post subject: Re: Wrongly hospitalized into foul conditions Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
Let me ask you? How can about 40 people speaking some English in rural Gyeongsangbuk-do all tell me they are from Daegu and sometimes mentioning, "saenuri."

Maybe because they really are from Daegu. Or they'll just say Daegu if they were born somewhere near it since they'll assume you don't know where their hometown would be. Anyways, Daegu is the major city in the Gyeongbuk, it shouldn't be too hard to find people from Daegu all over the province. There are probably people in Seoul that can't point out places like Pohang or Gumi on the map (I've met Seoulites who have no idea where Suwon was).
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andrewchon



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come to think of it, what Korea needs is a good-old fashioned hospital show on TV. Like Scrubs, ER, and dare I say it... General Hospital, with doctors and nurses who think about patients while they screw each other's brains out. That's the way to improve, well at least maintain, the hospitals. If it's on TV, it has to be true. Laughing
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nicwr2002



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: Wrongly hospitalized into foul conditions Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
Be careful with seeing hospital doctors over a flu, cold, or other conditions that's not a critical situation like heart attack or bad accident injury, because they can order you to admit into a hospital saying you have some serious condition like an infectious disease such as TB or HIV when you don't have allowing for an oddball nut case doctor to control you for a few days as happened to me. Needless to say, this terrified me and caused me unnecessary drama when a quack said I had TB yet I didn't have. He admitted 4 days later upon my release he knew I didn't have TB all along and didn't have me on TB drugs as he had me thinking. The hospital conditions were deplorable. (see below) Even though I'm well, he actually mumbled it would be OK if I wanted to stay longer with it being clear in his attitude and personality he wishes for me to fail. This infuriates me to no end. This was a downright mean thing to do to me exercised by a narcisist doctor with an inferiority complex.

I seen aforementioned quack this past Monday morning at a small government hospital in my small town because I was experiencing flu and cold symptoms longer than I should have that was obviously only a bacteria infection. While the antibiotics fully cleared me up inside of 2 days, I didn't need to be hospitalized nor told or suggested I was a very ill man when I'm healthy and my tests checked out. On Monday afternoon in his office, he acted like and insinuated I had lung cancer and then said I had TB tuberculosis and that I must admit into the hospital for proper treatment so he had me call my co-teacher and talked to her who was then charged full of drama. After having a chest CT, blood test, chest xray, and sputum test he was telling me I had TB yet I'm negative nor did I have TB's symptoms of coughing up bloody sputum mucous with chest pain nor any sign of serious conditions. I had a touch of bacterial pneumonia causing some cloudy area in the xray image and for me to feel extremely tired, but the CT image clearly showed healthy lung tissue so it was obvious I had a bacterial infection simply needing a course of antibiotics.

Even though nothing serious was going on with me nor was I in critical condition of any sort, I was admitted into the hospital by a quak doctors order late Monday afternoon, hooked up to IV, and given very powerful antibiotics intravaneously that worked very quickly inside of only 1 day to make me feel perfectly good again. Doctor was telling me I was going to have to stay until next Wednesday and I'd have to be on drugs for 6 months. I was in horror I'd lose my job, get sucked dry of money, and just going stir crazy with the appalling conditions and the fact I needed out rightfully so. It was harrowing and humbling to say the least, but I was diplomatic and respectful as much as I could be where I did not bad mouth anyone nor threaten anyone as much as these people angered me with passive aggressive BS and low quality work.

The conditions of this hospital are disrespectful to put it nicely. The bathroom drain was plugged so the room flooded out when I showered requiring a nurse aid to mop for an hour, the bathroom floor was black mold, no internet nor Wifi was possible, no laundry service is available, no bath towels are offered, a nurse aid was going to inject air into my veins until I stopped her because she didn't know how to hold the syringe, the food was horrible, and they wouldn't even remove my dinner trays full of dishes from the room after each meal requiring me to carry it in one hand while pushing an IV pole all the way down a hall. I was made to wear the same clothes for 3 days straight and was refused a clean set of hospital garment. The old people stank to high heavens with rotten filthy stench so no one is helping them keep any hygiene. This is completely nasty conditions, unethical, and low class. It is truly a disaster due to a lack of work ethic, lack of professionalism, and a severe lack of basic services. I frightenly lost all trust and was scared for my life a cross contamination was going to happen with injections and IV stuff so I'm hopeful nothing was done to me that I don't yet know about. There is a severe lack of cleaning services and they didn't want to do anything. No one seemed to care about anything or anyone and ice cold attitudes with a severe lack of attention to detail.

In the end, it all costed 350,000 won with NHIC and I feel I need my money back or most of it. I also feel I deserve an apology, but seen they coldly refused yet it was obvious they are wrong and I could see in their eyes they knew it. I expressed today to my co-teachers I'm angry and need an explaination and an apology or I need to file a formal complaint. They had the gald to tell me to not complain about anything Korean. I was told not to complain, obviously to guard the nationalistic pride and avoid losing face. Needless to say, I won't do another contract in Korea after nearly completing 4 of them, having many good memories, and a best friend for years who is also Korean.

Just a heads up on taking those easy to land country and small town jobs. Be especially careful in rural small town areas, particularly in Gyeongsangnam-do and Gyeongsangbuk-do where all locals and co-teachers will tell you they are from Daegu for this means they are conservative right wing and will not be nice to you nor all that fun to live and work around. The conservatives do not want foreigners here, but have to allow it to go on since the government says so for the kids though operate in strange unpleasant ways like I experienced. You'll know if you see it or when you see it when dealing with people.


Practicing your narrative skills?
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Jongno2bucheon



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a pretty horrible story.
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DosEquisXX



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a somewhat similar story. I was kept in a hospital for about a week when I suffered an ataxia episode that resulted in a hospital stay. After a day of treatment, the condition was clearly not life threatening. Although I felt slightly dizzy, I knew that bed rest would be the only cure and that the hospital could do nothing about it.

They kept me there for a week. Upon leaving, a doctor told me that I had chronic blood ischemia (what?) and that I had to take these packets of random pills for a year. I asked some questions about what the pills were and the side effects of these pills. Of course, he thought I was questioning his authority and knowledge and acted offended. He refused to tell me more and told me to leave. So, I took the packets and had extreme stomach pains as a result of taking them. It was almost bad enough for me to go to the hospital again. Thankfully, the drugs wore off and the pain followed suit. I never took the drugs again. I went to my doctor when I got back to America and he said that the doctors there are full of crap and that I know more than they do.
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many Korean hospitals impose pill quotas upon the doctors. That's why they prescribe so many pills to the patients. Its a huge scam.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
Come to think of it, what Korea needs is a good-old fashioned hospital show on TV. Like Scrubs, ER, and dare I say it... General Hospital, with doctors and nurses who think about patients while they screw each other's brains out. That's the way to improve, well at least maintain, the hospitals. If it's on TV, it has to be true. Laughing


I know your schtick is to try to be witty and all, but wtf are you going on about now?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrddogs wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
Come to think of it, what Korea needs is a good-old fashioned hospital show on TV. Like Scrubs, ER, and dare I say it... General Hospital, with doctors and nurses who think about patients while they screw each other's brains out. That's the way to improve, well at least maintain, the hospitals. If it's on TV, it has to be true. Laughing


I know your schtick is to try to be witty and all, but wtf are you going on about now?

You forgot the part of his schtick where he as to end every post with " Laughing "
... to try to compensate for the lack of actual humor in the post.

But he's right; Korea could use some hospital shows on TV. At least then they could do the benchmark/copy thing and come out slightly ahead. But one problem is there are plenty of quack doctors here as the training and standards are lower, not to mention the rush, rush, snap to judgement nature of the culture, as opposed to asking a variety of questions to determine a cause.

Just a few of the misdiagnoses I've heard of or seen here: A coworker went in about a rash on his hands (eczema) and they told him he had an STD ... before any tests were even done! This was in front of his wife. After being proven wrong, no apologies whatsoever.

Another friend had Mono... and they told him he had AIDS! Again, before any tests were even done. Imagine that. Also no apologies for scaring the hell out of him and his wife. Sorry, but being a foreigner does NOT automatically = STD when you can't figure out the true illness.

Had a friend break his back and they offered NO anesthetic after his surgery. He puked from the pain and was in agony for two days before he realized they weren't giving him any pain meds at all. He asked for it and they said, "Oh, you want? Why didn't you say so before?" Duh...

Broken hand: they put the IV in wrong and the anesthetic wasn't going in. The bone setter guy comes and notices this but goes on setting the bone immediately anyway, jerking it around as violently as possible while the assistant can barely hold the patient still from all the pain ...GGGGRRRRAAAAAAHHHHHHH...AAAARRRGGHH! Then sets it with an incorrect cast where the fingernails grew into the hand and the cuts became infected, which didn't bother the doctor at all and he made it seem like an inconvenience to get a nurse to clean up the wounds.

The care here is cheap, but not always good.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mix1 wrote:
byrddogs wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
Come to think of it, what Korea needs is a good-old fashioned hospital show on TV. Like Scrubs, ER, and dare I say it... General Hospital, with doctors and nurses who think about patients while they screw each other's brains out. That's the way to improve, well at least maintain, the hospitals. If it's on TV, it has to be true. Laughing


I know your schtick is to try to be witty and all, but wtf are you going on about now?

You forgot the part of his schtick where he as to end every post with " Laughing "
... to try to compensate for the lack of actual humor in the post.

But he's right; Korea could use some hospital shows on TV. At least then they could do the benchmark/copy thing and come out slightly ahead. But one problem is there are plenty of quack doctors here as the training and standards are lower, not to mention the rush, rush, snap to judgement nature of the culture, as opposed to asking a variety of questions to determine a cause.

Just a few of the misdiagnoses I've heard of or seen here: A coworker went in about a rash on his hands (eczema) and they told him he had an STD ... before any tests were even done! This was in front of his wife. After being proven wrong, no apologies whatsoever.

Another friend had Mono... and they told him he had AIDS! Again, before any tests were even done. Imagine that. Also no apologies for scaring the hell out of him and his wife. Sorry, but being a foreigner does NOT automatically = STD when you can't figure out the true illness.

Had a friend break his back and they offered NO anesthetic after his surgery. He puked from the pain and was in agony for two days before he realized they weren't giving him any pain meds at all. He asked for it and they said, "Oh, you want? Why didn't you say so before?" Duh...

Broken hand: they put the IV in wrong and the anesthetic wasn't going in. The bone setter guy comes and notices this but goes on setting the bone immediately anyway, jerking it around as violently as possible while the assistant can barely hold the patient still from all the pain ...GGGGRRRRAAAAAAHHHHHHH...AAAARRRGGHH! Then sets it with an incorrect cast where the fingernails grew into the hand and the cuts became infected, which didn't bother the doctor at all and he made it seem like an inconvenience to get a nurse to clean up the wounds.

The care here is cheap, but not always good.


I didn't forget that. How could I?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrddogs wrote:

I know your schtick is to try to be witty and all, but wtf are you going on about now?


Well, my 'thing' is (late) John Candy sleaze bag type. You know them, those who laugh at their own jokes. Laughing
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