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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| young_clinton wrote: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhninL_G3Fg |
After listening to that, now I know why Korean mothers want North Americans teaching their little Korean boys and girls. |
Yes and it would be a good call by the mother. Someone from the north of England nobody is going to understand even after weeks. Would they want their children sounding like that? In the US people from the deep south usually talk slower and I think they are easier to understand than someone from say Birmingham. |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isaIhX7llVk
That's right, you and the other semi-unemployable American stumblebums would make a better English teacher than Brian Blessed, because no-one can understand him right? |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhninL_G3Fg |
After listening to that, now I know why Korean mothers want North Americans teaching their little Korean boys and girls. |
Yes and it would be a good call by the mother. Someone from the north of England nobody is going to understand even after weeks. Would they want their children sounding like that? In the US people from the deep south usually talk slower and I think they are easier to understand than someone from say Birmingham. |
Clinton, Im from the North of England.
the part Im from has a different language and dialect to other parts of the UK and North. It is a combination of different languages but still has its roots in very formal germanic and Norse.
That being said, when I talk to people, even brits, I don't use that language but use more general English expressions and pronounce my words accordingly. I wasn't born stupid enough to not realise that one has to adapt to different situations.
I can honestly say, I've never had any problems being understood (in this or any other country). I have often been told that people are surprised that they can easily understand me because Im English (wow, well done!), even by Americans surprisingly.
What Im saying clinton, is that you're a bit far off the mark with your opinions because lets face it, thats all they are. |
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candy bar
Joined: 03 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| robbie_davies wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhninL_G3Fg |
After listening to that, now I know why Korean mothers want North Americans teaching their little Korean boys and girls. |
Yes and it would be a good call by the mother. Someone from the north of England nobody is going to understand even after weeks. Would they want their children sounding like that? In the US people from the deep south usually talk slower and I think they are easier to understand than someone from say Birmingham. |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isaIhX7llVk
That's right, you and the other semi-unemployable American stumblebums would make a better English teacher than Brian Blessed, because no-one can understand him right? |
What happened? Left waiting outside the movie theater but the hot little Korean babe didn't show up for the date, then blocked your phone number? Your contract wasn't renewed because your boss realized the Canadian cat was easier for the students to understand?
Hehehehe! Now fibbing about moving on to a prestigious job. If I send your boss my resume, you will be unemployed before payday comes around or as soon as my plane lands at the nearest airport. Be happy you have a job. You are 1 resume away from the soup line, junior. |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| candy bar wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhninL_G3Fg |
After listening to that, now I know why Korean mothers want North Americans teaching their little Korean boys and girls. |
Yes and it would be a good call by the mother. Someone from the north of England nobody is going to understand even after weeks. Would they want their children sounding like that? In the US people from the deep south usually talk slower and I think they are easier to understand than someone from say Birmingham. |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isaIhX7llVk
That's right, you and the other semi-unemployable American stumblebums would make a better English teacher than Brian Blessed, because no-one can understand him right? |
What happened? Left waiting outside the movie theater but the hot little Korean babe didn't show up for the date, then blocked your phone number? Your contract wasn't renewed because your boss realized the Canadian cat was easier for the students to understand?
Hehehehe! Now fibbing about moving on to a prestigious job. If I send your boss my resume, you will be unemployed before payday comes around or as soon as my plane lands at the nearest airport. Be happy you have a job. You are 1 resume away from the soup line, junior. |
You are a fool by the most conservative of estimations.
And its 'curriculum vitae' not 'resume'. 'Resume' means to 'restart'.
And you're going to be a teacher? Money well spent I'd say! |
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candy bar
Joined: 03 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| le-paul wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhninL_G3Fg |
After listening to that, now I know why Korean mothers want North Americans teaching their little Korean boys and girls. |
Yes and it would be a good call by the mother. Someone from the north of England nobody is going to understand even after weeks. Would they want their children sounding like that? In the US people from the deep south usually talk slower and I think they are easier to understand than someone from say Birmingham. |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isaIhX7llVk
That's right, you and the other semi-unemployable American stumblebums would make a better English teacher than Brian Blessed, because no-one can understand him right? |
What happened? Left waiting outside the movie theater but the hot little Korean babe didn't show up for the date, then blocked your phone number? Your contract wasn't renewed because your boss realized the Canadian cat was easier for the students to understand?
Hehehehe! Now fibbing about moving on to a prestigious job. If I send your boss my resume, you will be unemployed before payday comes around or as soon as my plane lands at the nearest airport. Be happy you have a job. You are 1 resume away from the soup line, junior. |
You are a fool by the most conservative of estimations.
And its 'curriculum vitae' not 'resume'. 'Resume' means to 'restart'.
And you're going to be a teacher? Money well spent I'd say! |
Do you have access to a dictionary? |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| candy bar wrote: |
| le-paul wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhninL_G3Fg |
After listening to that, now I know why Korean mothers want North Americans teaching their little Korean boys and girls. |
Yes and it would be a good call by the mother. Someone from the north of England nobody is going to understand even after weeks. Would they want their children sounding like that? In the US people from the deep south usually talk slower and I think they are easier to understand than someone from say Birmingham. |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isaIhX7llVk
That's right, you and the other semi-unemployable American stumblebums would make a better English teacher than Brian Blessed, because no-one can understand him right? |
What happened? Left waiting outside the movie theater but the hot little Korean babe didn't show up for the date, then blocked your phone number? Your contract wasn't renewed because your boss realized the Canadian cat was easier for the students to understand?
Hehehehe! Now fibbing about moving on to a prestigious job. If I send your boss my resume, you will be unemployed before payday comes around or as soon as my plane lands at the nearest airport. Be happy you have a job. You are 1 resume away from the soup line, junior. |
You are a fool by the most conservative of estimations.
And its 'curriculum vitae' not 'resume'. 'Resume' means to 'restart'.
And you're going to be a teacher? Money well spent I'd say! |
Do you have access to a dictionary? |
Yes, id be glad to help!
résumé
North American - A curriculum vitae.
resume
Begin again or continue after a pause or interruption
There you go!  |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| candy bar wrote: |
If I send your boss my resume, you will be unemployed before payday comes around or as soon as my plane lands at the nearest airport. Be happy you have a job. You are 1 resume away from the soup line, junior. |
I can do that if you want, I'll send you their email address by PM because you will be making three times more than what you do now. Do you have a related MA? |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| le-paul wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| le-paul wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhninL_G3Fg |
After listening to that, now I know why Korean mothers want North Americans teaching their little Korean boys and girls. |
Yes and it would be a good call by the mother. Someone from the north of England nobody is going to understand even after weeks. Would they want their children sounding like that? In the US people from the deep south usually talk slower and I think they are easier to understand than someone from say Birmingham. |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isaIhX7llVk
That's right, you and the other semi-unemployable American stumblebums would make a better English teacher than Brian Blessed, because no-one can understand him right? |
What happened? Left waiting outside the movie theater but the hot little Korean babe didn't show up for the date, then blocked your phone number? Your contract wasn't renewed because your boss realized the Canadian cat was easier for the students to understand?
Hehehehe! Now fibbing about moving on to a prestigious job. If I send your boss my resume, you will be unemployed before payday comes around or as soon as my plane lands at the nearest airport. Be happy you have a job. You are 1 resume away from the soup line, junior. |
You are a fool by the most conservative of estimations.
And its 'curriculum vitae' not 'resume'. 'Resume' means to 'restart'.
And you're going to be a teacher? Money well spent I'd say! |
Do you have access to a dictionary? |
Yes, id be glad to help!
résumé
North American - A curriculum vitae.
resume
Begin again or continue after a pause or interruption
There you go! |
That was lovely to read. |
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jazzmaster
Joined: 30 Sep 2013
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:01 am Post subject: |
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If you want to know why there is a preference for a North American accent you can search online.
"We also see that there are many factors which influence student's attitudes. Many of these factors relate to the student's perceptions and beliefs regarding each country. These beliefs seem to be moulded and shaped as the student goes through the Korean education system, and by any travel the student may partake in. Exposure to particular accents also builds a familiarity and preference. Although each individual respondent's attitudes will be shaped in a unique way, we do see similar patterns among the students. In their most basic forms these patterns are: a preference for North American or a 'big four' accent, a negative bias towards non-native accents. However, the results of this paper show that these attitudes change drastically over time and become more prominent as the age groups examined get older and the respondents' English ability improves."
Koreans have exposure to NAE more than any other variety of English. This leads to feelings of familiarity, which manifest themselves in a preference. Phonetically British English is more accurate than NAE, and there are language learners who attach a "prestige" value to British English. This is enforced by people watching tv programs such as Dr Who, Sherlock etc, which give them exposure to British English. The problem with many British accents, I see the Scots being mentioned in particular, is that they have a colloquialised version of English that they use, and in the case of the Scots they have their own language - "Scots". When these people speak with native speakers they tend to revert to their colloquial English, due to the expectation of being understood. This brings problems when Americans, due to their lack of exposure to varieties of English, have difficulty understanding.
There are studies in this that all of you could read, instead of arguing with each other on a message board about whose accent is "better". |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| jazzmaster wrote: |
If you want to know why there is a preference for a North American accent you can search online.
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That preference exists in Korea (amongst other places) if we are going to be specific.
There is no preference for a North American accent in Russia, many parts of western Europe - France - for example, Singapore, Malaysia, China.
A lot of all of these preferences are based on ignorance.
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| I see the Scots being mentioned in particular, is that they have a colloquialised version of English that they use, and in the case of the Scots they have their own language - "Scots". When these people speak with native speakers they tend to revert to their colloquial English, due to the expectation of being understood. This brings problems when Americans, due to their lack of exposure to varieties of English, have difficulty understanding. |
Absolutely. |
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candy bar
Joined: 03 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| le-paul wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| le-paul wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhninL_G3Fg |
After listening to that, now I know why Korean mothers want North Americans teaching their little Korean boys and girls. |
Yes and it would be a good call by the mother. Someone from the north of England nobody is going to understand even after weeks. Would they want their children sounding like that? In the US people from the deep south usually talk slower and I think they are easier to understand than someone from say Birmingham. |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isaIhX7llVk
That's right, you and the other semi-unemployable American stumblebums would make a better English teacher than Brian Blessed, because no-one can understand him right? |
What happened? Left waiting outside the movie theater but the hot little Korean babe didn't show up for the date, then blocked your phone number? Your contract wasn't renewed because your boss realized the Canadian cat was easier for the students to understand?
Hehehehe! Now fibbing about moving on to a prestigious job. If I send your boss my resume, you will be unemployed before payday comes around or as soon as my plane lands at the nearest airport. Be happy you have a job. You are 1 resume away from the soup line, junior. |
You are a fool by the most conservative of estimations.
And its 'curriculum vitae' not 'resume'. 'Resume' means to 'restart'.
And you're going to be a teacher? Money well spent I'd say! |
Do you have access to a dictionary? |
Yes, id be glad to help!
résumé
North American - A curriculum vitae.
resume
Begin again or continue after a pause or interruption
There you go! |
It has 2 proper spellings. Example: color - color (colour). Darn, my computer tried to correct the British version.
Say, aren't you the one who was complaining about your American Boss firing you? I think it was something about trashing around the school with your sandwich and leaving banana peelings on the floor. |
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candy bar
Joined: 03 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| robbie_davies wrote: |
| jazzmaster wrote: |
If you want to know why there is a preference for a North American accent you can search online.
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That preference exists in Korea (amongst other places) if we are going to be specific.
There is no preference for a North American accent in Russia, many parts of western Europe - France - for example, Singapore, Malaysia, China.
A lot of all of these preferences are based on ignorance.
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| I see the Scots being mentioned in particular, is that they have a colloquialised version of English that they use, and in the case of the Scots they have their own language - "Scots". When these people speak with native speakers they tend to revert to their colloquial English, due to the expectation of being understood. This brings problems when Americans, due to their lack of exposure to varieties of English, have difficulty understanding. |
Absolutely. |
No. Most places do prefer NAE. |
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le-paul
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| jazzmaster wrote: |
This brings problems when Americans, due to their lack of exposure to varieties of English, have difficulty understanding.
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(First off, I have never been to the USA so I dont know first hand so I have to go off what Ive read).
Americans - is quite a broad definition for a race of people. If I had to draw one and then write a typical family tree, I would have trouble deciding on a particular ancestry.
It also seems a little hypocritical to say they arent exposed to different accents considering how many Korean immigrants America claims to take.
Anyway...
The first website I checked states that in 2009, there were 38, 500,000 immigrants living in the USA. Im assuming that number has gone up.
Wiki says that in 2012, there are 38, 000, 000 people in the USA currently that speak spanish alone.
Im assuming of the first 38 million, most of them spoke a variety of English?
like the other poster said, i also think that by believing that you cant understand someone who speaks a variation of a language, is in short, ignorance.
This myth has obviously been perpetuated by the people claiming to have trouble with it. IE ........... (place name of indigenous people). |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| candy bar wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| jazzmaster wrote: |
If you want to know why there is a preference for a North American accent you can search online.
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That preference exists in Korea (amongst other places) if we are going to be specific.
There is no preference for a North American accent in Russia, many parts of western Europe - France - for example, Singapore, Malaysia, China.
A lot of all of these preferences are based on ignorance.
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| I see the Scots being mentioned in particular, is that they have a colloquialised version of English that they use, and in the case of the Scots they have their own language - "Scots". When these people speak with native speakers they tend to revert to their colloquial English, due to the expectation of being understood. This brings problems when Americans, due to their lack of exposure to varieties of English, have difficulty understanding. |
Absolutely. |
No. Most places do prefer NAE. |
No they don't, most places actually have no preference. You have only worked in Korea, correct? |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| candy bar wrote: |
| le-paul wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| le-paul wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhninL_G3Fg |
After listening to that, now I know why Korean mothers want North Americans teaching their little Korean boys and girls. |
Yes and it would be a good call by the mother. Someone from the north of England nobody is going to understand even after weeks. Would they want their children sounding like that? In the US people from the deep south usually talk slower and I think they are easier to understand than someone from say Birmingham. |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isaIhX7llVk
That's right, you and the other semi-unemployable American stumblebums would make a better English teacher than Brian Blessed, because no-one can understand him right? |
What happened? Left waiting outside the movie theater but the hot little Korean babe didn't show up for the date, then blocked your phone number? Your contract wasn't renewed because your boss realized the Canadian cat was easier for the students to understand?
Hehehehe! Now fibbing about moving on to a prestigious job. If I send your boss my resume, you will be unemployed before payday comes around or as soon as my plane lands at the nearest airport. Be happy you have a job. You are 1 resume away from the soup line, junior. |
You are a fool by the most conservative of estimations.
And its 'curriculum vitae' not 'resume'. 'Resume' means to 'restart'.
And you're going to be a teacher? Money well spent I'd say! |
Do you have access to a dictionary? |
Yes, id be glad to help!
résumé
North American - A curriculum vitae.
resume
Begin again or continue after a pause or interruption
There you go! |
It has 2 proper spellings. Example: color - color (colour). Darn, my computer tried to correct the British version.
Say, aren't you the one who was complaining about your American Boss firing you? I think it was something about trashing around the school with your sandwich and leaving banana peelings on the floor. |
Well, it looks as though your computer is as racist/prejudice as you are.
And I didn't understand that next part. You want me to say that? OK... 
'Aren't you the one that was complaining about your American Boss firing you?'
There you go (you really are a bit odd...).
If that was intended as a question, yes, it was me. Glad we could clear that up (bananas and everything!).
However, if it was you going for a bit of 'tit-for- tat' to annoy or humiliate me, you'll have to try a wee bit harder than that, or dig a bit deeper Im afraid.
Sorry.
But it is fun talking to you! |
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