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suntofu



Joined: 03 Apr 2014

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:42 pm    Post subject: what options for a failed epik application? Reply with quote

Hello everyone,
so i failed to even get to the interview portion of my application with epik and im still trying to look for work in Korea as a teacher.

so i did have some people give me some advice but so far it hasnt really worked. mainly, i applied through some of the suggested recruiters but most of them work directly with epik so that doesnt work for me...

what recruiters directly work with the schools and or private schools? so that i dont have to go through epik. because, from what i understand, you can only apply to epik once a year.

i did try with korean horizons but they can only offer me a position in incheon which i didnt want to go.

i had an interview set up with korvia but havnet spoken to them yet.

also i was looking at the job board here and it seems like some schools put out available positions on the listings. so can i just apply through the listings?

any help would be great!
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't know what to do after an 'epik' fail (pardon the pun), then think about why you chose EPIK in the first place.

1. Was it Haewoondae, the supposed Cancun of Korea?
2. Closeness of Fukuoka, Japan?
3. name EPIK sounded nice?
4. EPIK offers largest choice of safe public schools?
5. ...

I ask, mostly because EPIK puts up more 'humiliation hoops' in their application process than any other, but time after time, people come here despondent that EPIK turned them down. What is this appeal of EPIK? Laughing
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matthagwon



Joined: 28 Sep 2013
Location: Japan lite

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: what options for a failed epik application? Reply with quote

suntofu wrote:
Hello everyone,
so i failed to even get to the interview portion of my application with epik and im still trying to look for work in Korea as a teacher.

so i did have some people give me some advice but so far it hasnt really worked. mainly, i applied through some of the suggested recruiters but most of them work directly with epik so that doesnt work for me...

what recruiters directly work with the schools and or private schools? so that i dont have to go through epik. because, from what i understand, you can only apply to epik once a year.

i did try with korean horizons but they can only offer me a position in incheon which i didnt want to go.

i had an interview set up with korvia but havnet spoken to them yet.

also i was looking at the job board here and it seems like some schools put out available positions on the listings. so can i just apply through the listings?

any help would be great!


Worst case china
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sab2197



Joined: 17 Nov 2013

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my public school position through SayKimchi recruiting. Worked for me and I am happy with my job so far Smile
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jtp07



Joined: 23 Feb 2013
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can always try for GEPIK, Korvia is one of their recruiters
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modernseoul



Joined: 11 Sep 2011
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: what options for a failed epik application? Reply with quote

suntofu wrote:

i did try with korean horizons but they can only offer me a position in incheon which i didnt want to go.


If you're not looking for Incheon then were are you looking for? If you're location preference is niche then maybe you should consider Hagwons at least for the first year.
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wonkavite62



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: Jeollanamdo, South Korea.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:39 pm    Post subject: More Reply with quote

Before 2008, getting a public school job ***even in Seoul*** would have been relatively easy. The reasons are that (a) the paperwork involved was extremely easy, and (b) it was hard to fill all the places available.
After 2008, (a) the Lee Myung-Bak administration introduced criminal record checks. Okay. But he added lots more paperwork as well. (b) Unemployment among young graduates in Canada and the U.S. mushroomed. (c) The current government is now trying to scale back public school jobs. I think the biggest of these problems is graduate unemployment in the west. This does not mean that you cannot get a job here however, and unemployment in the U.S.A. is starting to go down, anyway.
I happen to think the application process for EPIK is a bit crazy.
You also have to get a lot documents: a criminal record check, and an apostille, a notarized copy of your diploma, and apostille, 2 reference letters on letter headed paper plus contact details etc. You may also have a small interview with an EPIK representative. Then there's your essay, or lesson plan and the application.
It could be that your application was incomplete. I once applied to a public school position in Seoul and was rejected because I had only one letter of reference. In another occasion I think application was delayed becaause the apostille came late.
You may have missed out something. Or applied too late. Send an e-mail to Canadian Connection. Many of their jobs are in Jeollanamdo, a little remote from Seoul, but nice.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd start with learning some punctuation. It's really not that hard to hit the shift key now and again.

I'm not kidding or just being an ass, presentation is important.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't consider EPIK to be the primary way of getting into a Korean ESL job, nobody on this forum should. You have many choices. The easiest being hitting the non-EPIK public school recruiters, which you should have done in the first place avoiding EPIK all together. You can also take your chances with a Hagwon.
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suntofu



Joined: 03 Apr 2014

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
I'd start with learning some punctuation. It's really not that hard to hit the shift key now and again.

I'm not kidding or just being an ass, presentation is important.


so are you going to offer me a job? are you telling me this because you can give me a job? do you understand im having a stressful time looking for work? you think i didnt use punctuation on a professional application? seriously man.


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suntofu



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
Don't consider EPIK to be the primary way of getting into a Korean ESL job, nobody on this forum should. You have many choices. The easiest being hitting the non-EPIK public school recruiters, which you should have done in the first place avoiding EPIK all together. You can also take your chances with a Hagwon.


hi, so what are my options then? cause ive talked to some recruiters already and none, at least up to this point, of them work with hagwons? what public schools can i apply directly too? and how would i be able to do so?
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suntofu



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: what options for a failed epik application? Reply with quote

modernseoul wrote:
suntofu wrote:

i did try with korean horizons but they can only offer me a position in incheon which i didnt want to go.


If you're not looking for Incheon then were are you looking for? If you're location preference is niche then maybe you should consider Hagwons at least for the first year.


hi,
so what are my hagwon options? where can i find a recruiter or where can i look to apply to a hagwon myself? are the positions on this boards job listings hagwon positions that i can just directly apply too?
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suntofu



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the responses everyone
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jtp07



Joined: 23 Feb 2013
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

suntofu wrote:
young_clinton wrote:
Don't consider EPIK to be the primary way of getting into a Korean ESL job, nobody on this forum should. You have many choices. The easiest being hitting the non-EPIK public school recruiters, which you should have done in the first place avoiding EPIK all together. You can also take your chances with a Hagwon.


hi, so what are my options then? cause ive talked to some recruiters already and none, at least up to this point, of them work with hagwons? what public schools can i apply directly too? and how would i be able to do so?


GEPIK could be an option, it is a program separate from EPIK and it places teachers in public schools of the Gyeonggi province, the area surround Seoul. As I mentioned before Korvia is one of their recruiters. GEPIK has similar requirements to EPIK, so if you did not get accepted to EPIK you may not have the best luck with GEPIK, but it could be worth a try.

What are you qualifications?
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suntofu



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jtp07 wrote:
suntofu wrote:
young_clinton wrote:
Don't consider EPIK to be the primary way of getting into a Korean ESL job, nobody on this forum should. You have many choices. The easiest being hitting the non-EPIK public school recruiters, which you should have done in the first place avoiding EPIK all together. You can also take your chances with a Hagwon.


hi, so what are my options then? cause ive talked to some recruiters already and none, at least up to this point, of them work with hagwons? what public schools can i apply directly too? and how would i be able to do so?


GEPIK could be an option, it is a program separate from EPIK and it places teachers in public schools of the Gyeonggi province, the area surround Seoul. As I mentioned before Korvia is one of their recruiters. GEPIK has similar requirements to EPIK, so if you did not get accepted to EPIK you may not have the best luck with GEPIK, but it could be worth a try.

What are you qualifications?


Yes, I spoke to them already and they said I should go with hagwons because I told them I had anxiety issues for a short while during college and they said that I would not be mentally suitable for public schools.

i dont know, i dont really buy it though. or maybe I'm the only person who honestly puts down information cause its quite literally impossible to live life without having some sort of panic or anxiety especially during college time. i dont get it. it was rather upsetting and just seemed like an excuse for not wanting to work with me or something. i didnt even need medical attention or anything. it was such a minor incident of anxiety/depression that i never needed medication and it was years ago and im completely fine and gotten over such issues.
at this point im just starting to feel really stressed because it seems like such an intense pre screening and i havent even been able to speak to the people or apply to the people who can actually give me a freakin job.

i graduated with an english degree; i have experience tutoring privately for elementary school children. i also teach music lessons to some high school/ college students. its not much but i felt like it should be okay
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