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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| andrewchon wrote: |
| byrddogs wrote: |
I know your schtick is to try to be witty and all, but wtf are you going on about now? |
Well, my 'thing' is (late) John Candy sleaze bag type. You know them, those who laugh at their own jokes.  |
Ok... that makes it slightly more tolerable. Off to watch Uncle Buck now... |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
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I know your schtick is to try to be witty and all, but wtf are you going on about now? |
Well, my 'thing' is (late) John Candy sleaze bag type. You know them, those who laugh at their own jokes. |
Well, at least someone is laughing. |
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Princess Soraya
Joined: 30 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| Very sorry about what happened to you. I have had very unpleasant experiences with the medical fraternity here and unless I am bleeding from the jugular, you won't find me at the hospital. |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| I've been fortunate. I feel like I've received top notch health care in Korea. Thank goodness I wasn't living in those United shitty States of that bitch America. Granted, I have to sometimes surf around for second and third opinions, but the Korean health care system is one of the reasons I like living here. |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
| Well, my 'thing' is (late) John Candy sleaze bag type. You know them, those who laugh at their own jokes. |
Right. That's what makes the posts even more funny.  |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone remember the swine flu dilemma from a few years back?
Upon returning from my trip back home to see my family (which I was advised against doing as there were more cases at the time in my home country than the ROK) I showed up to work on the first day and was told that I immediately must leave and go into a self monitored quarantine. I also could not return to work until I had been checked to assure that I wasn't infected. I was told that I could do this at local free gu clinic. I went there and was told that I as a foreigner wasn't able to do it there. I went to the closest possible local hospital (I wasn't supposed to be out and about after all) and attempted to get the check done.
The nurse that took my temp shouted out for the whole area to hear "FEVER" and threw a mask at me demanding that I wear it. It was slightly, and I mean very slightly, elevated. I refused her demand, took my flu test, and went on to enjoy my week off from work swine flu free.
What was I talking about? |
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beentheredonethat777
Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: AsiaHaven
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Wrongly hospitalized into foul conditions |
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Be careful with seeing hospital doctors over a flu, cold, or other conditions that's not a critical situation like heart attack or bad accident injury, because they can order you to admit into a hospital saying you have some serious condition like an infectious disease such as TB or HIV when you don't have allowing for an oddball nut case doctor to control you for a few days as happened to me. Needless to say, this terrified me and caused me unnecessary drama when a quack said I had TB yet I didn't have. He admitted 4 days later upon my release he knew I didn't have TB all along and didn't have me on TB drugs as he had me thinking. The hospital conditions were deplorable. (see below) Even though I'm well, he actually mumbled it would be OK if I wanted to stay longer with it being clear in his attitude and personality he wishes for me to fail. This infuriates me to no end. This was a downright mean thing to do to me exercised by a narcisist doctor with an inferiority complex.
I seen aforementioned quack this past Monday morning at a small government hospital in my small town because I was experiencing flu and cold symptoms longer than I should have that was obviously only a bacteria infection. While the antibiotics fully cleared me up inside of 2 days, I didn't need to be hospitalized nor told or suggested I was a very ill man when I'm healthy and my tests checked out. On Monday afternoon in his office, he acted like and insinuated I had lung cancer and then said I had TB tuberculosis and that I must admit into the hospital for proper treatment so he had me call my co-teacher and talked to her who was then charged full of drama. After having a chest CT, blood test, chest xray, and sputum test he was telling me I had TB yet I'm negative nor did I have TB's symptoms of coughing up bloody sputum mucous with chest pain nor any sign of serious conditions. I had a touch of bacterial pneumonia causing some cloudy area in the xray image and for me to feel extremely tired, but the CT image clearly showed healthy lung tissue so it was obvious I had a bacterial infection simply needing a course of antibiotics.
Even though nothing serious was going on with me nor was I in critical condition of any sort, I was admitted into the hospital by a quak doctors order late Monday afternoon, hooked up to IV, and given very powerful antibiotics intravaneously that worked very quickly inside of only 1 day to make me feel perfectly good again. Doctor was telling me I was going to have to stay until next Wednesday and I'd have to be on drugs for 6 months. I was in horror I'd lose my job, get sucked dry of money, and just going stir crazy with the appalling conditions and the fact I needed out rightfully so. It was harrowing and humbling to say the least, but I was diplomatic and respectful as much as I could be where I did not bad mouth anyone nor threaten anyone as much as these people angered me with passive aggressive BS and low quality work.
The conditions of this hospital are disrespectful to put it nicely. The bathroom drain was plugged so the room flooded out when I showered requiring a nurse aid to mop for an hour, the bathroom floor was black mold, no internet nor Wifi was possible, no laundry service is available, no bath towels are offered, a nurse aid was going to inject air into my veins until I stopped her because she didn't know how to hold the syringe, the food was horrible, and they wouldn't even remove my dinner trays full of dishes from the room after each meal requiring me to carry it in one hand while pushing an IV pole all the way down a hall. I was made to wear the same clothes for 3 days straight and was refused a clean set of hospital garment. The old people stank to high heavens with rotten filthy stench so no one is helping them keep any hygiene. This is completely nasty conditions, unethical, and low class. It is truly a disaster due to a lack of work ethic, lack of professionalism, and a severe lack of basic services. I frightenly lost all trust and was scared for my life a cross contamination was going to happen with injections and IV stuff so I'm hopeful nothing was done to me that I don't yet know about. There is a severe lack of cleaning services and they didn't want to do anything. No one seemed to care about anything or anyone and ice cold attitudes with a severe lack of attention to detail.
In the end, it all costed 350,000 won with NHIC and I feel I need my money back or most of it. I also feel I deserve an apology, but seen they coldly refused yet it was obvious they are wrong and I could see in their eyes they knew it. I expressed today to my co-teachers I'm angry and need an explaination and an apology or I need to file a formal complaint. They had the gald to tell me to not complain about anything Korean. I was told not to complain, obviously to guard the nationalistic pride and avoid losing face. Needless to say, I won't do another contract in Korea after nearly completing 4 of them, having many good memories, and a best friend for years who is also Korean.
Just a heads up on taking those easy to land country and small town jobs. Be especially careful in rural small town areas, particularly in Gyeongsangnam-do and Gyeongsangbuk-do where all locals and co-teachers will tell you they are from Daegu for this means they are conservative right wing and will not be nice to you nor all that fun to live and work around. The conservatives do not want foreigners here, but have to allow it to go on since the government says so for the kids though operate in strange unpleasant ways like I experienced. You'll know if you see it or when you see it when dealing with people. |
For the record, I am extremely happy to have Health insurance. I am grateful for living in Korea. I am thankful for the health care system. Sometimes I think that is why I've stayed here for so long; but I have to relate this story. I'm still not sure what to make of it. Here goes...
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I kind of enjoyed reading this because now I'm totally relieved. About five years ago, an eyelash/dirt/something got into my eye and it was red and irritated. When my boss saw it, he pulled me out of class and rushed me to the doctor. The doctor took one look at me and said to get me to the "big hospital, because it was really bad. They did a lot of test/exams and determined that I had a "massive tumor in my left eye and would be "totally blind" in my left eye if I didn't get the " specialty eye hospital " right away!
I was so scared. My boss was terrified. He was driving fast and saying, "Oh God, It's very bad, bad, bad. We got to the "eye hospital" They did a lot more test and "confirmed" the diagnosis. They told me that I was lucky because in another "24 hours, I'd been totally blind." they had some special medicine that would dissolve the tumor, but I'd probably lose most of my vision. I could be treated as an outpatient(since I was a teacher),if I didn't want to stay, If I promised to come there every day for a month. They put a big patch over my eye and gave me a script for 5 pills to take 3x a day.
Well. the trip was almost two hours each way by bus, but I agreed. After about two days of being treated with a clear liquid into the eye, the irritation was gone, so I decided to just go one more time, just to be on the safe side. They called me a time or two to see when I was coming back. I said, I didn't know. My boss even gave me 100,000 Korean won for transportation. He was worried sick about me.
Fast forward, when I got my current full medical exam, my vision was better than it has ever been in my entire life! No mention of any blindness.
What if they'd tried to do surgery on my eye? Then what?
But then again, NONE of my Korean friends understand why I don't go to the doctor when I have a simple cough. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| byrddogs wrote: |
Anyone remember the swine flu dilemma from a few years back?
Upon returning from my trip back home to see my family (which I was advised against doing as there were more cases at the time in my home country than the ROK) I showed up to work on the first day and was told that I immediately must leave and go into a self monitored quarantine. I also could not return to work until I had been checked to assure that I wasn't infected. I was told that I could do this at local free gu clinic. I went there and was told that I as a foreigner wasn't able to do it there. I went to the closest possible local hospital (I wasn't supposed to be out and about after all) and attempted to get the check done.
The nurse that took my temp shouted out for the whole area to hear "FEVER" and threw a mask at me demanding that I wear it. It was slightly, and I mean very slightly, elevated. I refused her demand, took my flu test, and went on to enjoy my week off from work swine flu free.
What was I talking about? |
Are you a fellow swine flu survivor?
While I told everyone at my school and gullible saps back home that it was a near-death experience, in reality it was a miserable 2 days followed up by a sweet 2 week home rest and relaxation break, though I was itchin to get to the bar afterwards.
I Beat Swine Flu! |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Wrongly hospitalized into foul conditions |
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| Be careful with seeing hospital doctors...because they can order you to admit into a hospital. |
Is this true? Will they call the police and stop you from leaving. Couldn't you just put on your pants and walk out?
[My father had surgery in Canada and they told him he must stay 3 days. After one night he felt fine, and just said, "I'm leaving." They argued, and he just said, I'm going. They let him go, and he's in his 70s.] |
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yodanole
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they are'nt out to get you... |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, they can order and enforce your admittance if:
1. you have highly transmittable disease and are a danger to public safety
2. you are mentally deranged and prone to violence
IMO this is a culture clash. Westerners believe, and rightly so, that hospitals are place to get better. Asians think hospitals are place that you go before you die. |
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