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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| In the context of this thread it's hard to tell the jokes from reality. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| I think it was Titus who some time back held up Mormonism as a potential model for an alternative to the direction in which western society is drifting. The campaign to feminize Mormonism is slowly starting to heat up, both from outside the Church and within it, and it's not going to stop. The Mormon Church has shown in the past that it will ultimately cave to such pressure, and I suspect in the long term this will be no different. The majority of Mormon women don't seem to be on board just yet, but it is not a difficult thing to breed resentment, and if a substantial core of resentful Mormon women can be produced, the Church will give them what they want. Whether this is a good thing for the Church I don't know (or care), but I don't think the way in which the Mormon Church is set up allows it to resist such pressure in the long term. |
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Titus
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/04/does-traditional-college-debate-reinforce-white-privilege/360746/ (where else)
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Does Traditional College Debate Reinforce White Privilege?
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These days, an increasingly diverse group of participants has transformed debate competitions, mounting challenges to traditional form and content by incorporating personal experience, performance, and radical politics. These “alternative-style” debaters have achieved success, too, taking top honors at national collegiate tournaments over the past few years.
But this transformation has also sparked a difficult, often painful controversy for a community that prides itself on handling volatile topics.
On March 24, 2014 at the Cross Examination Debate Association (CEDA) Championships at Indiana University, two Towson University students, Ameena Ruffin and Korey Johnson, became the first African-American women to win a national college debate tournament, for which the resolution asked whether the U.S. president’s war powers should be restricted. Rather than address the resolution straight on, Ruffin and Johnson, along with other teams of African-Americans, attacked its premise. The more pressing issue, they argued, is how the U.S. government is at war with poor black communities.
In the final round, Ruffin and Johnson squared off against Rashid Campbell and George Lee from the University of Oklahoma, two highly accomplished African-American debaters with distinctive dreadlocks and dashikis. Over four hours, the two teams engaged in a heated discussion of concepts like “nigga authenticity” and performed hip-hop and spoken-word poetry in the traditional timed format. At one point during Lee’s rebuttal, the clock ran out but he refused to yield the floor. “*beep* the time!” he yelled. His partner Campbell, who won the top speaker award at the National Debate Tournament two weeks later, had been unfairly targeted by the police at the debate venue just days before, and cited this personal trauma as evidence for his case against the government’s treatment of poor African-Americans.
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Joe Leeson Schatz, Director of Speech and Debate at Binghamton University, is encouraged by the changes in debate style and community. “Finally, there’s a recognition in the academic space that the way argument has taken place in the past privileges certain types of people over others,” he said. “Arguments don’t necessarily have to be backed up by professors or written papers. They can come from lived experience.”
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Hardy and others are also disappointed with what they perceive as a lack of civility and decorum at recent competitions, and believe that the alternative-style debaters have contributed to this environment. “Judges have been very angry, coaches have screamed and yelled. People have given profanity-laced tirades, thrown furniture, and both sides of the ideological divide have used racial slurs,” he said. |
Debates become vibrant. The debates then become about vibrants, with 'nigga' being thrown about, logic is replaced with "lived experience", there are shouting matches and thrown tables... White privilege, or white norms, apparently holds these people back. |
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Titus
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Titus
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Jongno2bucheon
Joined: 11 Mar 2014
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Actually when i think kansas and terrorist, the first name to come to mind is timothy.
Its actually surprising that the terrorist is not white. Illegals like TimMcveigh who hate America need to be shot! |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Jongno2bucheon wrote: |
Actually when i think kansas and terrorist, the first name to come to mind is timothy.
Its actually surprising that the terrorist is not white. Illegals like TimMcveigh who hate America need to be shot! |
That was Oklahoma, an outlier, and 20 years ago. Eat more kimchi. |
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Jongno2bucheon
Joined: 11 Mar 2014
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Titus wrote: |
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Actually when i think kansas and terrorist, the first name to come to mind is timothy.
Its actually surprising that the terrorist is not white. Illegals like TimMcveigh who hate America need to be shot! |
That was Oklahoma, an outlier, and 20 years ago. Eat more kimchi. |
Yeah... He looked white like you. One of these new wanna be Americans.
Most of these mass shooters lately i.e. The bombing at LAX, children massacre in new england were whites.
Its clearly obvious we need to zero in on these types of new Americans who are white. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Very good.
Read this five times:
When white people lose interest in you as a group you will stop existing as a group. When we decide to stop supporting this fiction called "Korea" you will gently and agreeably dissolve into the Chinese ethnie. Thank us. You exist because we will you to exist. It will be over soon. You're welcome. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Titus wrote: |
Very good.
Read this five times:
When white people lose interest in you as a group you will stop existing as a group. When we decide to stop supporting this fiction called "Korea" you will gently and agreeably dissolve into the Chinese ethnie. Thank us. You exist because we will you to exist. It will be over soon. You're welcome. |
Titus, Korea existed and was at times invaded, a dependency, and a dependent long before America existed. And while it may or may not have remained a part of China or Japan, history has shown that those things happen and yet Korea emerges as a nation time and time again. Korea is no more willed to exist by white people than the Netherlands and Belgium are by France and Germany or Portugal by Spain. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:45 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah. It's fair enough to say that a strong influx of western influence is the line that divides South Koreans from North Koreans, but it's not the line dividing ethnic Koreans from collapsing into the Han Chinese ethnicity or something. Even Koreans who live in China are still a discernible ethnic group of their own (조선족). That said, I can understand why Jongno's hypocritical race trolling might inspire some backlash. |
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Jongno2bucheon
Joined: 11 Mar 2014
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:34 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| Yeah. It's fair enough to say that a strong influx of western influence is the line that divides South Koreans from North Koreans, but it's not the line dividing ethnic Koreans from collapsing into the Han Chinese ethnicity or something. Even Koreans who live in China are still a discernible ethnic group of their own (조선족). That said, I can understand why Jongno's hypocritical race trolling might inspire some backlash. |
Why race profile middle easterners and not whites?
Have you seen how many crazy bombers and massacres that cite the "mongrelization" of America as their cause for terrorism?
Perhaps you sympathize with those whites? You know, the new American? The original older Americans looked Korean btw... |
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Jongno2bucheon
Joined: 11 Mar 2014
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| Titus wrote: |
Very good.
Read this five times:
When white people lose interest in you as a group you will stop existing as a group. When we decide to stop supporting this fiction called "Korea" you will gently and agreeably dissolve into the Chinese ethnie. Thank us. You exist because we will you to exist. It will be over soon. You're welcome. |
Did you pee in your panties writing that? Maybe you want to bomb something huh? What a wuss, youre no Timothy McVeigh. He was 5 times the man you were. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| Jongno2bucheon wrote: |
Why race profile middle easterners and not whites? |
Why ask me to defend the behavior of other people which I have not endorsed?
| Jongno2bucheon wrote: |
| Perhaps you sympathize with those whites? |
What a nice fox of straw you've crafted for yourself. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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