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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Software and apps will make real-time translation much more of a reality. It won't be perfected by that time, but it will be prevalent enough that speaking might be slightly de-emphasized in favor of writing and grammar. |
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Died By Bear

Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:49 am Post subject: |
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You might get a raise in another ten years. Then again, you might not. |
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DaeguNL
Joined: 08 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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World Traveler wrote: |
aq8knyus wrote: |
Korean, like any other langauge, can with a moderate amount of effort be learned to a high proficiency over a 10 year period.
For those who have advanced degrees, language skills, a decent visa and experience/contacts Korea will still be a pretty good deal. New arrivals on the other hand will find it a lot harder. |
It takes 10 years to get good at Korean? That's kind of depressing, because that's a really long time! I think a lot about whether Korean would be impossible for me to learn, or rather just take a really long time to learn. (The thought of either scenario is painful.)
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Marcus studied language acquisition in graduate school. He says that for a long time, there was a generally accepted theory of “critical periods”: the idea that if you don’t learn a language early in life, you’ll never be able to master it.
“We used to believe that that was the case — that if you didn’t learn by the time you were 16, you’d never become fluent,” Marcus says. “What we know now is that some adults actually do become fluent. And although it’s definitely easier to learn some things when you’re a kid, it’s not the case that you just absolutely lose the ability later in life. There’s more of a gradual decline, but it is still possible.” |
http://blogs.kqed.org/mindshift/2012/01/is-it-ever-too-late-to-learn-music/ |
It depends on your definition of good. Someone with 0 knowledge of Korean could enter a university program here, and complete level 6 after a year and a half. It might take 10 years to be fluent, but you can get to a high intermediate to advanced level of Korean in 1 year (If you put in the effort!) |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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DaeguNL wrote: |
It depends on your definition of good. Someone with 0 knowledge of Korean could enter a university program here, and complete level 6 after a year and a half. |
Hypothetically, yes. But most Westerners (especially those without prior knowledge of the Japanese and/or Chinese language) are unable to pass those classes (which are designed for, and mostly filled by, Japanese, Chinese, and gypo students). How many non-gypo Westerners do you know who graduated from level six? Very very few are able to make it.
DaeguNL wrote: |
you can get to a high intermediate to advanced level of Korean in 1 year (If you put in the effort!) |
I don't think so. I don't think one year of full time study- eight hours a day- will get you there. Sogang considers levels one, two, and three to be beginner, so by the time one completes level four there, one would be "low intermediate". That's if one can pass. |
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