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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:40 am    Post subject: Donald Sterling Reply with quote
NBA's LA Clippers owner Donald Sterling is in hot water for offensive comments.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/27/sports/basketball/nba-clippers-owner-donald-sterling.html?hpw&rref=sports&_r=0

Hopefully, Sterling gets forced out. There's something really urksome about his comments vs. your normal run-of-the-mill controversy like Imus. If the NBA doesn't come down hard, I think fans and players should boycott and go on strike.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I see it's time for another round of, "Someone expressed an idea which I found distasteful, he must be punished."
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Sector7G



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I certainly don't want to seem like I am defending the guy - he seems like a real jerk - but I have to say I am feeling a little uncomfortable about how his comments came to light in the first place. I mean, who among us has not uttered some jerk comments in private that would have made us look bad if they were made public.

I guess it's not only Big Brother we have to worry about watching us, but Little Brother and Little Sister too.
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Leon



Joined: 31 May 2010
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sector7G wrote:
I certainly don't want to seem like I am defending the guy - he seems like a real jerk - but I have to say I am feeling a little uncomfortable about how his comments came to light in the first place. I mean, who among us has not uttered some jerk comments in private that would have made us look bad if they were made public.

I guess it's not only Big Brother we have to worry about watching us, but Little Brother and Little Sister too.


I feel like this a bit as well. I think that the context would be completely different than if this was a public statement. Now that it is out, I think it is appropriate for him to have a hard time with his actual black employees or whatnot, but as someone who doesn't even watch the NBA, I feel no need to care.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, one thing in his defense is that it is pretty clear his girl is trying to rile him up and getting him to say some crap that will sound bad so she can spin it to her advantage. He did have a lawsuit pending against her and this was obviously a scheme of hers. As a man, I think all of us can sympathize with "sneaky deranged ex" syndrome and that leading us to say some stuff we may regret. I say that's his only defense- If he can show his players that she was trying to mess with him mentally by doing that stuff and play up some sexual power games using men of color to purposefully irritate him and he comes across real about it, his players might actually get it. They're rich and famous too. They know those games. However, I don't think an 81 year old billionaire is that street smart or thinking along those lines.

Still, when you are an NBA owner saying your gf shouldn't be photographed with black men like Magic Johnson, and saying she shouldn't bring black men to an NBA game, its a bit worse than something out of context or just a random offensive statement. I mean, we aren't talking some random "thug" at the club, we're talking about fellow pro-sports owner and NBA top-10 player of all-time Magic Johnson. Even worse is that his gf is a minority herself.

I don't think Imus should have been taken to task the way he was or Rosie O'Donnell and her "ching chong ching chong" or similar not racist, but in bad taste incidents where the PC police come out. But this was just a slap in the face to his employees and everything the league stands for.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
He didn't have a pending lawsuit against her, his wife did.

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But this was just a slap in the face to his employees and everything the league stands for.


Yep.

The timing is puzzling too. The recording happened months ago, and now it is coming out? Hmm...

Another disgusting bit of news to come out of this is the fact he was going to get an award from the NAACP. Given his past, even before this came out in the news, that's disgraceful. Apparently money truly does buy love...
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Died By Bear



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
In the meantime, Magic's group has offered to buy the Clippers.
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Titus



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Died By Bear wrote:
In the meantime, Magic's group has offered to buy the Clippers.


It just so happens that Magic was the principle in the photo Tokowitz was upset about and apparently close personal friends with Stiviano/Vanessa Maria Perez/Monica Gallegos/Maria Monica Perez Gallegos/Maria Valdez (or whatever she's calling herself this afternoon).
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ah, the usual crowd appears to defend this poor, persecuted, NBA franchise owner.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/04/28/why-the-world-finally-noticed-donald-sterlings-appalling-history/

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The Donald Sterling who is dominating headlines and drawing widespread condemnation for allegedly saying a metric ton of racist things is the same Donald Sterling who has a long, long, long history of being accused of saying or doing offensive things. So why is this time — and why are these particular remarks — different? Why has the world suddenly discovered Donald Sterling?

It’s useful to step back for a moment and remember that this is not a sudden, heretofore unknown side of Sterling being unearthed. Rather, this is just the first time Sterling’s behavior has been the subject of quite so much scrutiny, shining for the first time the brightest possible light on his extensive and unbelievable history.

Consider that Bomani Jones wrote a story headlined “Sterling’s racism should be news” in 2006. Again: 2006. Eight years and 351 losses by the Clippers ago. Jones wrote this after Sterling was sued for housing discrimination. In the lawsuit, Sterling was accused of refusing to rent apartments to black people. (This followed a different lawsuit filed in 2003 alleging that Sterling tried to drive out black and Hispanic tenants, a suit that was settled with an undisclosed financial settlement that was believed to be quite sizable.) As Jones pointed out, the story didn’t really draw much attention at the time.

Sterling was ordered in 2009 to pay a $2.725 million settlement, the largest ever obtained by the Justice Department for such a housing discrimination case. (Sterling and his wife denied any wrongdoing.)
That same year, former Clippers executive and NBA Hall of Fame member Elgin Baylor filed a lawsuit alleging decades of racist behavior by Sterling. Among other things, the suit claimed that Sterling said things like “I’m offering a lot of money for a poor black kid,” and said he wanted the team to be made up of “poor black boys from the South” with a white coach. (The racial claims were dropped before the trial; a jury rejected the lawsuit in 2011.)

The other stories are plentiful. Here’s Sterling allegedly using a racial slur when talking with a head coaching candidate during the early 1980s. Here’s Sterling testifying about paying a woman for sex. Here’s someone who worked at a building Sterling owned saying in sworn testimony that he heard Sterling say the following: “I don’t like Mexican men because they smoke, drink and just hang around the house.” (Peater Keating’s story for ESPN The Magazine in 2009 outlined a lengthy array of things Sterling was accused of saying; in the story, Keating noted that Sterling’s behavior was largely not being covered by the media.)


Frak him.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not defending him, I'm attacking the people feigning offense for the sake of appearing to be on the "right side" of this issue. The way not being politically correct in one's private speech is being framed as a crime against humanity here is loathsome, regardless of how unsympathetic he is as an individual.
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