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Will a J.D. be a problem?
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Tulipsaki



Joined: 17 Apr 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
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Be prepared if you decide to go back to practice law to have every interviewer inquire about why you went to Korea as if you're insane. I've been back working in the States as an attorney for approaching 4 years now and I still get asked about that.


Yes I imagine guys like that would find it very difficult to understand the concept of someone doing something for motives other than cash.


It would also be a break in the career, and lawyers tend to be very linear regarding their careers.
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enchoo



Joined: 04 Jul 2004
Location: Heading to a reality show near you

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:29 pm    Post subject: Try university jobs Reply with quote

Try university jobs
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Tulipsaki



Joined: 17 Apr 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Try university jobs Reply with quote

enchoo wrote:
Try university jobs


Are those listed here, or is there an agency for them?
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a lawyer friend married to a Korean and he worked for some law school here teaching common law in their legal departments. He did some universities in Seoul, but they wouldn't give him tenure. So, he gave them the finger and moved to the countryside and they did give him tenure. But, he had either an F2 or F5. But, you might have to be in Korea and get a Korean to look for you. Maybe the countryside is easier to find something though.
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Will a J.D. be a problem? Reply with quote

Tulipsaki wrote:
will J.D. be a problem?


Only if you drink it neat.
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ykang2375



Joined: 16 Apr 2014

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jsk wrote:
I had a JD (and 1.5 years of being an attorney) when I started in Korea. I think it helped rather than hurt when I was looking for other jobs. I would've liked to have done something law-related rather than teach English when I was there, but my Korean was insufficient and many of the places hiring foreign lawyers as consultants seemed to be most concerned with where you went to school (I went to a decent state school but not a Top 15).

Be prepared if you decide to go back to practice law to have every interviewer inquire about why you went to Korea as if you're insane. I've been back working in the States as an attorney for approaching 4 years now and I still get asked about that.


Hey jsk,

I'm in the same situation, in terms of having a J.D. and no teaching experience. Just curious, how did you get your first teaching job? Did you use a recruiter or did you fly to Korea and hit the pavement?

Thanks!
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand what the issue is here. Would a Biology degree be a problem? Would an underwater basket weaving degree be a problem? I have the prior degree and a lot of people teaching have the latter. Why would a J.D. matter? You can think and learn and have academic ability.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
I don't understand what the issue is here. Would a Biology degree be a problem? Would an underwater basket weaving degree be a problem? I have the prior degree and a lot of people teaching have the latter. Why would a J.D. matter? You can think and learn and have academic ability.



You can't spell simple words and you can't string together a sentence to save your life. Whatever backwater school you attended let you slip through the cracks. You should not be teaching, you should be cleaning swimming pools.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll probably want to get a TESOL cert, but only if you're looking for university jobs. Might be tough if you're a short-termer from the get-go as there are more and more qualified teachers here with loads of qualifications going for university slots.

A smaller, out of own university might give you a shot, though. Never know until you try. Go on-line and get a list of all Korean universities (the search will take you all of 2 seconds). Get an ESL friendly CV in order and pepper the landscape.

Or you could take a hagwon job. If that's your preference, go for a medium to large chain like Pagoda, YBM, or Wall Street Institute, even Chungmoon, where adult teaching positions are available. In this case, you could opt for life in the big city.

The upside for you is that it'll probably only be a year, and as you'll be on sabattical, you'll be able to roll right back into your old job regardless of whether or not you get raked over the coals here.

Good luck to you.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a couple JDs on staff at my university. It's not uncommon.
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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Home sweet home

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Woosong or Yeungnam has looked specifically for JDs to teach law.
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PureLuck



Joined: 06 Jun 2014
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey there. Fellow JD on the job hunt here. Do you also have a Bachelor's? I have found people don't really care about my JD at all, and spending the extra money to get both my JD and Bachelor's apostilled was the only really big difference I've noticed so far. I wouldn't be surprised if it resulted in less job offers being directed towards me, but the fact that I'm a white Canadian probably had more of an impact on that. I still generated plenty of interest once I posted my resume.

You may be able to use your JD and lawyer chops to find interviews for places that need people to teach "business English." I got an interview for a job that was posted seeking someone with corporate/business experience by virtue of my JD even though I don't have any legal work experience. The pay seems to be significantly better than ESL work.

One place I interviewed for asked me why I wanted to leave the legal profession (or the prospect of it) for Korea, and I was pretty honest about just needing some time away in order to decide whether I really wanted to pursue a career in law. That went over well. I think a lot of employers are used to the fact that people treat Korea as kind of an adventure and tend to have personal/romantic motives rather than practical ones.

Anyways, I don't have much helpful to add but I wanted to just tip my hat to a fellow rogue JD and express a bit of mutual understanding. Good luck.
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Shimokitazawa



Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Will a J.D. be a problem? Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
You are just like every other BA holder when it comes to be an "English" teacher; under-qualified and inexperienced but with your JD you likely come with an inflated sense of ego and self entitlement (or would be perceived as such).


I've worked with two American attorneys, both in hogwans.

The only person here with an inflated sense of ego is the person quoted above.

OP, universities will hire J.D. holders. A few TEFL'ers with J.D. degrees have posted here over the years and all of them I believe teach at universities.
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PureLuck



Joined: 06 Jun 2014
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Will a J.D. be a problem? Reply with quote

Shimokitazawa wrote:
The only person here with an inflated sense of ego is the person quoted above.


Ooh, shots fired.

In his defense he did say "or are perceived as such," which is true, people do perceive JDs as being egotistical and entitled, as the same poster demonstrated.
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FMPJ



Joined: 03 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know three JDs working at foreign language high schools. You should be on the lookout for the more "elite" jobs; ordinary schools/hagwons are less likely to consider your background a positive.
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