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Nork's racism at Obama vs South Korean attitudes
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cmxc



Joined: 19 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:54 pm    Post subject: Nork's racism at Obama vs South Korean attitudes Reply with quote

So the Norks are calling President Obama a 'wicked black money with a red bum'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/08/north-korea-obama-monkey_n_5288121.html

The real question is, are the attitudes displayed by the Norks toward persons of color that different from the attitudes held by the majority of South Koreans, especially the ones older than say, 30 or 40?

Question: if Barry Obama came to Korea, not having been President of the US, but as a business man or political-activist, just how welcome would he be to the average Korean person?
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its a bit of a stretch to connect two countries, even if they have the same ethnicity and language, if one does things like have hundreds of thousands in gulags, and executes people in bizarre and cruel ways and is essentially an organized crime syndicate.

Besides, you're talking about a press release from the North Korean media. This isn't an opinion freely given. This is a bit written by somebody at the Ministry of Propaganda who crafted the statement, and the people reporting it have to read it or be shot and have their families thrown into a labor camp.

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Question: if Barry Obama came to Korea, not having been President of the US, but as a business man or political-activist, just how welcome would he be to the average Korean person?


Probably as welcome as the average Korean is to the average black NET, or businessman or visiting military personnel or whomever. I know you may think that Koreans hide their children from black people while hurling racist abuse and tossing garbage at them, but that's not the case.

As for older people, most held Mandela in pretty high regard. And most people were happy to see Obama elected. They thought it was really nice that Americans did such a thing.
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dairyairy



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

North Korea always says extreme things about the USA, Japan, and the leadership in South Korea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktAsAAl_soU

Of course, it's right back at them from some in South Korea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEvnM0I3EWs
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maitaidads



Joined: 08 Oct 2012

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Probably as welcome as the average Korean is to the average black NET, or businessman or visiting military personnel or whomever.


So you're saying that blacks don't respect Koreans?

Sad
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

North Korean statements don't relate to South Koreans. North Korean propaganda even tells N. Koreans that South Korean blood is impure because they're mixing with foreigners. North Koreans are so isolated and brainwashed. Here an interesting piece:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2163817/How-North-Korean-children-taught-hate-American-b----kindergarten.html
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atwood



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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The racist remarks that Americans make regarding President Obama, such as those of Ted Nugent, are of much more concern that what any Korean thinks or says, IMO.
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The North Korean regime does not care what you think of them. You can say what you want about them, tweet it death, hashtag the Hell out it. It makes no difference.
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catman



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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kim Jung-Un is a Tea Party member.
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teedram



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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Making ignorant comments about the US president is nothing compared to what the NK government does to its own people.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maitaidads wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
Probably as welcome as the average Korean is to the average black NET, or businessman or visiting military personnel or whomever.


So you're saying that blacks don't respect Koreans?

Sad


Uh, no...

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jazzmaster



Joined: 30 Sep 2013

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was called a miguk nom on Friday by an older Korean man. The mentality mentioned in the article also exists in South Korea.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he came as a jr Senator (IL, D), then probably go unnoticed.
If he came as a Harvard Law professor to meet with former presidents: Kim Dae Jung or Noh Moo Hyun, then pro-leftist media would've made some polite remarks.
If he came to organise ESL teachers then he'd been told "there's no need and please go back".

Other than those I can't see any other reason for Barack Obama to come to Korea. He doesn't have any business backgound.

As for NK's 'black monkey...' thing: that's what Koreans used to call the Japanese occupiers. Koreans in 30-40's don't use that metaphor. People in 50-60's do. Would they call Obama 'black....'? Why not? Their life sucks and will continue to suck. Things ain't gonna improve by holding back. However, not many would bother. Most powerful man in the world he maybe, he just isn't relevant to them in their lives. War against racism? Wh....hip, straight over their heads. Laughing
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzmaster wrote:
I was called a miguk nom on Friday by an older Korean man. The mentality mentioned in the article also exists in South Korea.


This is a point of reflection for you. Are you in fact a miguk nom? Was there any truth to what he said? Now keep in mind that every man is right in his own eyes.

Or was this person an undiagnosed mental case?
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was Obama's response?
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jazzmaster



Joined: 30 Sep 2013

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
jazzmaster wrote:
I was called a miguk nom on Friday by an older Korean man. The mentality mentioned in the article also exists in South Korea.


This is a point of reflection for you. Are you in fact a miguk nom? Was there any truth to what he said? Now keep in mind that every man is right in his own eyes.

Or was this person an undiagnosed mental case?


I can confirm I am 100% not a miguk nom. It could have been worse though, he could have said Canadian.

As for being an undiagnosed mental case, does being Korean qualify?
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