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zasoukup



Joined: 18 Mar 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:54 am    Post subject: Korea Poly School... thoughts? Reply with quote

I'm looking at a possible position with Poly. I've heard they can be brutal but worth the trouble. That's about all I got. Anyone have any experience? I'll have a years worth of experience, the schedule is 9:00-7:30 (6.5 teaching hours), "offer" is 2.4 to 2.5mil.
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cedarseoul



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

9-7:30 for 2.4/2.5? I thought POLY standard was 2.75+ for the long shift.

That's much too low for such a long day, regardless of the number of "teaching hours."
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northway



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My buddy worked there because the pay was a bit higher and ended up really regretting it. Consider that you are going to spend more than ten hours a day at work. I don't think it makes sense for experienced teachers to take these jobs.
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Mr. BlackCat



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of friends of mine worked there. That 6.5 hours is a bit misleading. First, those are actual hours, not classes. They also had TONS of extra stuff to do. I thought it was bad at ECC when I was there. Poly worked them like dogs, they often stayed later than their schedules and brought work home. Apparently Poly also did some tricky accounting, giving them a low base salary and then adding everything on as "OT", thereby not having to pay full severance and pension (I'm not completely clear on this, but I'd investigate it more).

The good part was the good pay and nice apartment. Also, everything is above board in that you won't get fired in the 11th month or not paid. My friends don't regret it too much as a first job in Korea.
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The Sultan of Seoul



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6.5 hours of teaching 5 days a week is brutal. 2.5 for that cracks me up.

I used to teach 4 forty min classes a day at a public school job and then teach three hours in the evenings at a hakwan three times a week mon / wed / fri. So total around 5 hours on those three days and 4 forty min classes tues / thurs and I cleared 3.7mil plus all benefits.

My advice would in all honesty be to look for a smaller hakwan gig where the contract might say 30 hrs teaching a week but they don't have a full schedule and only have you doing around 20 - 25 hrs a week for less money, say 2.2 or 2.3mil. That equals a happier and healthier you for only a few hundy less.
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midgic



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poly "School" is the most horrible place I've ever worked in my life.
The students were mostly great but the management was mostly horrible.

Also, do they still rip teachers off with their system of "bonus" contracts?
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luckylady



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they are definitely low-balling you with that salary - I did a stint with poly in 2005 and was paid 2.7 for 9:30-7 - so if nothing else, you need to get a higher salary.

poly does have a higher standard of English speaking students but as stated, mgmt is brutal and all-business, not edu centered

generally you will have help for the younger students, which is good

parents are usually great but put demands on your time as they will speak English and want to meet with you

field trips are the best part and are actually fun

you can make some money there but it's hard work so just be prepared in case that's not exactly what you want.

they do pay on time and no problems with health care, etc.

which location are you looking at?
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cedarseoul



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These days, the POLY contract does provide full severance / pension (not the "bonus" system previously utilized). However, as several posters have said--POLY is a lot of work. Great kids, and a decent curriculum, but I can't imagine putting in those long hours for only 2.4/2.5.

OP, if you want to work at POLY--at the very least, counter-offer on salary.
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northway



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

luckylady wrote:
they do pay on time and no problems with health care, etc.


There is no way you can say this with authority, considering many of Poly's locations are franchised.
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luckylady



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
luckylady wrote:
they do pay on time and no problems with health care, etc.


There is no way you can say this with authority, considering many of Poly's locations are franchised.


yes, I can because there's one owner and he makes sure that always happens - which is one of the good aspects of Poly - have never heard or seen on Dave's anyone that had pay issues while working there, including Korean teachers, who sometimes get shafted at hakwons when the FT doesn't

it's not the same kind of franchise as some of the others - the owner has regular staff development meetings for ALL poly schools; some teachers change school locations, there is communication from the top to the other schools.

there is actually an HR dept for all the schools combined who does the hiring, and manages accounts
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northway



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

luckylady wrote:
northway wrote:
luckylady wrote:
they do pay on time and no problems with health care, etc.


There is no way you can say this with authority, considering many of Poly's locations are franchised.


yes, I can because there's one owner and he makes sure that always happens - which is one of the good aspects of Poly - have never heard or seen on Dave's anyone that had pay issues while working there, including Korean teachers, who sometimes get shafted at hakwons when the FT doesn't

it's not the same kind of franchise as some of the others - the owner has regular staff development meetings for ALL poly schools; some teachers change school locations, there is communication from the top to the other schools.

there is actually an HR dept for all the schools combined who does the hiring, and manages accounts


There isn't one owner, my buddy worked for an independently franchised one in Busan.
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luckylady



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:


There isn't one owner, my buddy worked for an independently franchised one in Busan.



bully for your buddy. there's still just one owner of Poly.
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mollayo



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have several friends who work for Poly. 9-7 or 7:30 are their usual hours, and by the time the weekend comes around, they are usually burned out. They all love the students but complain about unnecessary busy work. They all get paid either 2.7 or 2.8 million.
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hacheondo



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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just offered a job at Poly. I've been teaching for nine years. They offered 2.3. Same hours and workload.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

midgic wrote:
Poly "School" is the most horrible place I've ever worked in my life.

I've met people who did a runner from that place. To work so hard and so many hours for so little money is foolish. Avoid.
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