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4 Sewol crew members indicted for homicide
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:51 am    Post subject: 4 Sewol crew members indicted for homicide Reply with quote

and others are under further investigation.

http://news.msn.com/world/south-korea-indicts-four-ferry-crew-for-homicide

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nicwr2002



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They also need to indict the people responsible for approving the redesign of the ship as well as inspectors who allowed the ship to be overloaded.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's nothing to discuss. They must be freed at ONCE! Laughing
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aq8knyus



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 2:23 am    Post subject: Re: 4 Sewol crew members indicted for homicide Reply with quote

byrddogs wrote:
and others are under further investigation.

http://news.msn.com/world/south-korea-indicts-four-ferry-crew-for-homicide

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As I understand it this does not include the third mate who was at the wheel at the time of the accident.

Which is good. She should have never been put in that position.

Surprising though considering how high tempers are running. Only a few days ago a professor lost his job simply for criticizing the families actions on Facebook.
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byrddogs



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are the ones indicted for homicide:

"The captain, a first officer and second officer and the chief engineer escaped before the passengers, leading to grave casualties," prosecutor Ahn Sang-don, who is leading the investigation, told a news briefing.

It seems that from this article that the other eleven crew members (that third officer at the helm would be part of that group, right?) have been indicted for negligence.

"Prosecutors also indicted the 11 other surviving crew members of the ferry Sewol on negligence charges."
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with this decision 100%.

The Koreans assigned the blame among the crew appropriately.
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Mr. BlackCat



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Word is SteelRails will serve as their defense attorney.
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guavashake



Joined: 09 Nov 2013

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. BlackCat wrote:
Word is SteelRails will serve as their defense attorney.


And expert witness.
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is an over-charge, but then again, I am going by US law. Apparently, "The Korean criminal code treats “murder by not taking certain actions” and “murder by taking certain actions,” such as stabbing a person to death, as the same. Under the criminal code, those convicted of murder are given the death penalty, life sentence or a prison term of five years or more."

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2014/05/116_157294.html
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sector7G wrote:
I think it is an over-charge, but then again, I am going by US law. Apparently, "The Korean criminal code treats “murder by not taking certain actions” and “murder by taking certain actions,” such as stabbing a person to death, as the same. Under the criminal code, those convicted of murder are given the death penalty, life sentence or a prison term of five years or more."

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2014/05/116_157294.html


There are situations under U.S. law where a person can be charged with murder for not taking actions. Good example is if a boat in distress fires a flare. If you are in a nearby boat and ignore it, resulting in a death onboard the distressed craft; you can be charged with murder.
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guavashake



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is also the situation that jvalmer proposed, the dreaded coffee punishment...

"I do hope that they looked at the escaping captain, and crew, at disgust and perhaps someone 'accidentally' spilled their coffee on the captain."
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=232606&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75
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