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supitsdan
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:30 am Post subject: Re: I'm a bilingual Korean wanting to get a job |
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| supitsdan wrote: |
Why haven't I even gotten a single offer from anybody?
1) I'm 18, in international age.
2) I have zero experience on teaching or any particular part time jobs so I want to build up some career for myself.
3. Because I'm Korean.
4. Because I don't know how to write a resume and I do not have one.
5. Because I don't have a phone number or anything but kakao.
6. Because I don't have a college degree yet. |
1) you are too young to be a teacher.
2) you have no experience as a teacher and no training to become one.
3) Non-issue if you could legally teach or had some qualifications as a teacher (a TEFL course is a good start).
There are LOTS of Koreans working in hagwons as English teachers.
(every one of my Korean co-teachers was a Korean.)
4) It isn't rocket science. MS word has a resume wizard to assist you. All you need to do is fill in the blanks.
5) So how would anyone (as in a real employer) contact you?
6) THIS is a BIG ISSUE:
- without a degree (even as a Korean) you CANNOT legally work as a teacher of a foreign language in Korea.
- without a degree you CANNOT be registered at the Ministry of Education as a teacher.
And forgive this parting shot... (it not just aimed at you) but seriously...
= why would someone without an education think they are qualified to be an educator?
= why would a school hire an uneducated person to be a teacher?
- Just because you can speak a language somewhat does NOT mean you can actually teach it.
7) As a college student IF you are lucky you may find some work as a tutor for your school mates who need to try to pass their English courses.
Hang some posters/notices around the college.
You won't get rich but you may be able to pay some bills.
(They may even contact you on Kakao).
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bilingual Korean wanting to get a job |
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| supitsdan wrote: |
Okay, I'm a college student in Korea and my nationality is Korea.
I'm bilingual because my father taught me English when I was very little.
I'm 18, in international age.
I have zero experience on teaching or any particular part time jobs so I want to build up some career for myself.
So one of my friends told me to go on Koreabridge (I don't know if I'm allowed to mention this, if it's gonna be a problem, please let me know.) and find some jobs that seemed suitable for me. I went there and messaged them personally but they weren't responsive.
So I searched for some Korean tutoring forums and posted my information but that ended up being buried, too.
I'm gonna throw some theories in my mind right now, what blocks me from getting a job.
Why haven't I even gotten a single offer from anybody?
1. Because I'm Korean.
2. Because I don't know how to write a resume and I do not have one.
3. Because I don't have a phone number or anything but kakao.
4. Because I don't have a college degree yet.
What do you think? Please answer what's wrong with me or my things. I'm very new so I'm willing to learn and do whatever you suggest. I want the job so bad.
P.S. I'm thinking about going to some bars in KNU area and getting some info on jobs from foreigners.
Thank you for reading such clumsy long boring story. I would appreciate your comment very much. |
I'm not trying to be nasty but if you are indeed Korean you should know that you need to have a college degree at a bare minimum. Yes some shady schools DO hire people without a college degree but is that the kind of employer you want to work for?
To get back to your post. (1) is not an issue. There are plenty of Korean teachers out there.
As for the rest of your questions Mr. ttompatz already answered them. You need a few more years, preferably some experience and a degree.
Also read this quote again.
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| Just because you can speak a language somewhat does NOT mean you can actually teach it. |
A few more years studying the language and how to teach it would be beneficial. Again I'm not trying to be nasty but there are a bunch of elemental mistakes in your post. Just think how you would feel if you WERE a teacher and your students noticed these mistakes?
In your first sentence "my nationality is Korea"--should read Korean
No such thing as "international age"...I know what you mean...just say "American age" which is still clumsy but better.
"I have zero experience on teaching or any particular part time jobs"--should read 'I have zero experience in teaching nor have I had any other part-time jobs"
"I'm going to throw some theories in my mind right now..."--should read 'throw out some theories that are in my mind'
"what's wrong with me or my things"..."things" is too vague and non-specific.
And the last thing people have on their minds when in bars is giving out job info. Those are not reliable sources of information.
Your final sentence should read "such a clumsy..."
And "comment" should possibly read "comments"
I'm not trying to embarrass you but some more English practice and getting a degree (as well addressing the other issues raised) should help you in your quest to become a teacher. There is no rush...jobs are still to be had and will be for some time...despite the gloom-and-doom posters on this board. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bilingual Korean wanting to get a job |
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| supitsdan wrote: |
Okay, I'm a college student in Korea and my nationality is Korea.
I'm bilingual because my father taught me English when I was very little.
I'm 18, in international age.
I have zero experience on teaching or any particular part time jobs so I want to build up some career for myself.
So one of my friends told me to go on Koreabridge (I don't know if I'm allowed to mention this, if it's gonna be a problem, please let me know.) and find some jobs that seemed suitable for me. I went there and messaged them personally but they weren't responsive.
So I searched for some Korean tutoring forums and posted my information but that ended up being buried, too.
I'm gonna throw some theories in my mind right now, what blocks me from getting a job.
Why haven't I even gotten a single offer from anybody?
1. Because I'm Korean.
2. Because I don't know how to write a resume and I do not have one.
3. Because I don't have a phone number or anything but kakao.
4. Because I don't have a college degree yet.
What do you think? Please answer what's wrong with me or my things. I'm very new so I'm willing to learn and do whatever you suggest. I want the job so bad.
P.S. I'm thinking about going to some bars in KNU area and getting some info on jobs from foreigners.
Thank you for reading such clumsy long boring story. I would appreciate your comment very much. |
Sadly, and as you know, Korea has a lot of competition. Many places still want a foriegn face as parents won't believe someone Asian looking is foriegn or speaks English well. A lot of younger Koreans speak English well. Not all, but many. I'd say at 18, learn a field that pays well and doesn't have as much competition. In the west certain jobs pay well because demand for them is high and not many people wnat to do them. (I'm thinking Engineering, IT, Accounting, Nurses, etc as far as four year degrees go.) I realize those dynamics are different in Korea as more people study and compete for even these jobs. So, you have to ask around and search via the internet, look at government statistics sites about what kind of jobs will be available in the future and what kind of salaries they will offer. If you have a specialized skill set (jobs mentioned above) and speak English you might be able to work in other countries too once you graduate if Korea is too competitive. Go to where the jobs are.
Either way if you try to do things that everyone else can do, you face too much competition and wages pushed lower. As I understand it, Koreans in hakwons only make 1.5 a month or less and can quickly be hired. So, you should consider another career path for your life, unless you are just saving up some cash while living with your parents. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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If unemployment rates are higher for young people as I think Asian countries do make up statistics to save face. A 3 or 4 % unemployment rate here is probably closer to 10%.
Anyhow, some folks in the west do unpaid internships. I couldn't afford to as I didn't live in a big city where the head offices were and would have had to have had an income to pay rent, food, etc. But, if you can live for free with your folks and volunteer teach part time at some local community center while working at CU, GS25 or whatever for a few months, that might let you get some experience.
When unemployment rates are high, competitiion is brutal and even smart people don't get jobs. Only folks who know someone or have certain last names get the few good jobs. I know as I come from an area that's always been bad that way. So, you go to where the jobs are ifyou can eventually. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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He is (stated in his OP) a college student.
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| Okay, I'm a college student in Korea and my nationality is Korea. |
His best bet is to find tutoring jobs around campus. 1st year freshmen-English class students might be a good start to look for clients. |
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supitsdan
Joined: 15 May 2014
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:35 pm Post subject: Thank you all for your comments |
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| I still have a lot to learn, thanks |
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sml7285
Joined: 26 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: Thank you all for your comments |
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| supitsdan wrote: |
| I still have a lot to learn, thanks |
Have some fun before your 2 year military service first. Worry about earning money later. |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bilingual Korean wanting to get a job |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| supitsdan wrote: |
Okay, I'm a college student in Korea and my nationality is Korea.
I'm bilingual because my father taught me English when I was very little.
I'm 18, in international age.
I have zero experience on teaching or any particular part time jobs so I want to build up some career for myself.
So one of my friends told me to go on Koreabridge (I don't know if I'm allowed to mention this, if it's gonna be a problem, please let me know.) and find some jobs that seemed suitable for me. I went there and messaged them personally but they weren't responsive.
So I searched for some Korean tutoring forums and posted my information but that ended up being buried, too.
I'm gonna throw some theories in my mind right now, what blocks me from getting a job.
Why haven't I even gotten a single offer from anybody?
1. Because I'm Korean.
2. Because I don't know how to write a resume and I do not have one.
3. Because I don't have a phone number or anything but kakao.
4. Because I don't have a college degree yet.
What do you think? Please answer what's wrong with me or my things. I'm very new so I'm willing to learn and do whatever you suggest. I want the job so bad.
P.S. I'm thinking about going to some bars in KNU area and getting some info on jobs from foreigners.
Thank you for reading such clumsy long boring story. I would appreciate your comment very much. |
I'm not trying to be nasty but if you are indeed Korean you should know that you need to have a college degree at a bare minimum. Yes some shady schools DO hire people without a college degree but is that the kind of employer you want to work for?
To get back to your post. (1) is not an issue. There are plenty of Korean teachers out there.
As for the rest of your questions Mr. ttompatz already answered them. You need a few more years, preferably some experience and a degree.
Also read this quote again.
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| Just because you can speak a language somewhat does NOT mean you can actually teach it. |
A few more years studying the language and how to teach it would be beneficial. Again I'm not trying to be nasty but there are a bunch of elemental mistakes in your post. Just think how you would feel if you WERE a teacher and your students noticed these mistakes?
In your first sentence "my nationality is Korea"--should read Korean
No such thing as "international age"...I know what you mean...just say "American age" which is still clumsy but better.
"I have zero experience on teaching or any particular part time jobs"--should read 'I have zero experience in teaching nor have I had any other part-time jobs"
"I'm going to throw some theories in my mind right now..."--should read 'throw out some theories that are in my mind'
"what's wrong with me or my things"..."things" is too vague and non-specific.
And the last thing people have on their minds when in bars is giving out job info. Those are not reliable sources of information.
Your final sentence should read "such a clumsy..."
And "comment" should possibly read "comments"
I'm not trying to embarrass you but some more English practice and getting a degree (as well addressing the other issues raised) should help you in your quest to become a teacher. There is no rush...jobs are still to be had and will be for some time...despite the gloom-and-doom posters on this board. |
TUM, I agree with most of your post, but I'm just going to say that if you are correcting someone else's English, you should be careful of mistakes of your own. You mean elementary mistakes, not elemental, and there's nothing wrong with "international age"; it's not only the USA that uses that form of calculating age, and I've heard international age as often or more than I have American age. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bilingual Korean wanting to get a job |
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| littlelisa wrote: |
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TUM, I agree with most of your post, but I'm just going to say that if you are correcting someone else's English, you should be careful of mistakes of your own. You mean elementary mistakes, not elemental, and there's nothing wrong with "international age"; it's not only the USA that uses that form of calculating age, and I've heard international age as often or more than I have American age. |
According to the online dictionary
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[el-uh-men-tl] Show IPA
adjective
2. pertaining to rudiments or first principles. |
As for "international age" I never said that it was the USA that uses that form. What I meant is that many if not most people just use a number. When someone asks you how old you are would you really tell them "My INTERNATIONAL age is 35 (for example)"?
Or "I'm 35."
And if we are including personal experiences I can say I've never heard anyone using the word "international" when talking about their age and almost certainly if you were talking to another native speaker it would sound somewhat pedantic. |
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jazzmaster
Joined: 30 Sep 2013
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bilingual Korean wanting to get a job |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| littlelisa wrote: |
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TUM, I agree with most of your post, but I'm just going to say that if you are correcting someone else's English, you should be careful of mistakes of your own. You mean elementary mistakes, not elemental, and there's nothing wrong with "international age"; it's not only the USA that uses that form of calculating age, and I've heard international age as often or more than I have American age. |
According to the online dictionary
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[el-uh-men-tl] Show IPA
adjective
2. pertaining to rudiments or first principles. |
As for "international age" I never said that it was the USA that uses that form. What I meant is that many if not most people just use a number. When someone asks you how old you are would you really tell them "My INTERNATIONAL age is 35 (for example)"?
Or "I'm 35."
And if we are including personal experiences I can say I've never heard anyone using the word "international" when talking about their age and almost certainly if you were talking to another native speaker it would sound somewhat pedantic. |
International age is far more suitable than American age. Providing it is said in Korea, each speaker would add the prefix before the age not used in their home country.
Korean speaker: "I am 35, my international age is 34."
Native speaker: "I am 34, my Korean age is 35." |
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nate1983
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bilingual Korean wanting to get a job |
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| jazzmaster wrote: |
International age is far more suitable than American age. Providing it is said in Korea, each speaker would add the prefix before the age not used in their home country.
Korean speaker: "I am 35, my international age is 34."
Native speaker: "I am 34, my Korean age is 35." |
Not all other countries use the same (international/American) system though. I would just go with "I'm 34, and my Korean age is 35." In Korean, the expression for international/American/real age is "만으로," which means roughly "full [age]," FWIW. |
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jazzmaster
Joined: 30 Sep 2013
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bilingual Korean wanting to get a job |
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| nate1983 wrote: |
| jazzmaster wrote: |
International age is far more suitable than American age. Providing it is said in Korea, each speaker would add the prefix before the age not used in their home country.
Korean speaker: "I am 35, my international age is 34."
Native speaker: "I am 34, my Korean age is 35." |
Not all other countries use the same (international/American) system though. I would just go with "I'm 34, and my Korean age is 35." In Korean, the expression for international/American/real age is "만으로," which means roughly "full [age]," FWIW. |
Nice explanation. |
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Majeh
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:28 am Post subject: Tutoring is your best bet. |
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I agree with a lot of the previous posts. Your best bet is tutoring grade 1-12 students.
You may want to consider tutoring Korean kids who have returned from spending one or more years abroad. If their parents cannot afford to send them to one of those academies that specialize in helping returnee Korean kids maintaining their English skills (or the British Council), a private tutor for them will be a more cost-effective solution.
Just out of curiosity, what is your major at university? |
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