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Hakwons use air con more than public school?
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was 31 degrees this afternoon. I was getting the heebee jeebees. It wasn't so humid, but still hot. I can take some heat without humidity but when it starts getting up over 28, it shouldn't be unreasonable to turn this on. The problem is the over 45 types love the heat and their the ones running the country. Kids are hollering for me and it's driving me nuts too. Probis my school was great last year and this year they turned into a bunch of pricks controlling it from the main office so I can't even turn it on in the rooms. I'll give it a couple of more weeks, before I start asking for it I guess.

I did go to this school one day a week last year where they wouldn't turn it on and when they did, it was part of July and part of August. Even then, it was very minimally 28 or 29, I believe. There was one teacher's room where they had it one more as one of the rare older female teachers that seemed to like it and she'd go all ajumma on them to turn it on. Needless to say I visited her a lot.

Up until now, I could tolerate Korea because I could turn on the A/C when I needed it. But, this is pure crap. I imagine a lot of tourists and foriegn businessmen will come to Seoul in the summer and never come back here.

I spent a couple of days in Seoul last summer and the whole damn place was like an oven even indoors. By the end of the day, I was so worn down by the heat that I even yelled at a couple of people. I went to Tokyo a few years back and everything was air conditioned. It was awesome.

How's it in China? Either I need a new country to teach in or I need to go find a job in the Arctic. Ah the Arctic, seems like effin paradise.
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DosEquisXX



Joined: 04 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern China is disgustingly cold. If anything, you'd be bitching about the lack of heat during the winter.

Opposite is true for the south. If you work at a uni, expect to teach while wearing a light jacket in the winter and sweating bullets during the summer with shorts and a t-shirt.

As for academies, it depends. Some of them absolutely needed it because of the extreme weather. Others in more temperate zones can and do skimp a bit on it.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DosEquisXX wrote:
Northern China is disgustingly cold. If anything, you'd be bitching about the lack of heat during the winter.

Opposite is true for the south. If you work at a uni, expect to teach while wearing a light jacket in the winter and sweating bullets during the summer with shorts and a t-shirt.

As for academies, it depends. Some of them absolutely needed it because of the extreme weather. Others in more temperate zones can and do skimp a bit on it.


As in the unis don't let you use air con? Is there a restriction there temp wise?
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J Rock



Joined: 17 Jan 2009
Location: The center of the Earth, Suji

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Hakwon manager has flat out told me it's too expensive to run the aircon, and she wants to look good for the owner. Like she's a hero for saving 10,000 Won a day by turning the aircon off but on the other end she loses 10 kids a month because of how hot it is in the rooms.

I swear she's happiest when the kids are sweating their asses off dying (along with me) of heat stroke.

My second year at the same hakwon I found an extra remote and hid it in my pocket. I'd walk around all day turing on every single unit and walking away. The manager would run around all day turing them off and resorted to taking all the remotes from the classrooms and keeping them in her office. When this didnt work I had her convinced the units were somehow motion sensored so that whenever we walked into a room they would turn on.

She called a repairman to change them from motion sensored to remote operated. He informed her that they were already in fact remote operated. His only explaniation that was possible was the remote signals from the floor below or above were being read by our units and there was nothing he could do.

I half expected her go to go to the other floors and ask them to stop using their remotes becuase it was messing with out aircon machines. She didnt however.

She ended up giving up and we had a nice cool summer!
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First thing I do when I get into my class is crank up the AC. Only problem I have is that while almost every kid will say they are hot you'll still get 1 or 2 kids complaining about how cold they are.

I just tell them that if they are cold then can move to the front.
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wings



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Government offices and buildings are not supposed to turn on the ac until it is 28 degrees inside the building. I work in a government office and there are signs about it all over the place.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wings wrote:
Government offices and buildings are not supposed to turn on the ac until it is 28 degrees inside the building. I work in a government office and there are signs about it all over the place.


Yeah, I know. It's because the old geysers at the top aren't hot when all the younger people, kids, and foreigners are sweating their asses off. They wear coats outdoors until about a week ago for crying out loud. My school sets the thermostats downstairs at their offices for the whole school. So, the hidden remote won't work for me. But in a hakwon, I wonder if you can just buy an extra remote. Ha ha.

Anyways, the old farts love the heat and so must everyone else apparently according to them.
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J Rock wrote:
Like she's a hero for saving 10,000 Won a day by turning the aircon off but on the other end she loses 10 kids a month because of how hot it is in the rooms.



Thrift and self-sacrifice is an instinct deeply instilled in the korean psyche by centuries of poverty and hardship.

Many of my bosses- at hagwons and public schools - have insisted on turning off the airconditioning on the hottest days of the year.

To us its ridiculous nonsense but to them it fulfills their need to feel that they are suffering in the present, to make a better future.

They need a feeling of group-suffering, its part of their history and psychological makeup.

Once you understand this concept, Korea will make more sense to you.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few people have mentioned the energy problems. The nuclear power plants in Korea were found to have faulty parts (fake) and had to be taken off line to be inspected. Taking all the plants off line created a problem last year and they were talking about the possibility of rolling blackouts occurring with a single siren being the warning that it was imminent.

The university I work at has them on in most buildings, but not all. When the air was turned on in the main building we teach at I warned the students that if they were going to be cold they'd better bring something to cover up because I was going to blast the A/C.

J Rock wrote:
My second year at the same hakwon I found an extra remote and hid it in my pocket. I'd walk around all day turing on every single unit and walking away. The manager would run around all day turing them off and resorted to taking all the remotes from the classrooms and keeping them in her office. When this didnt work I had her convinced the units were somehow motion sensored so that whenever we walked into a room they would turn on.

She called a repairman to change them from motion sensored to remote operated. He informed her that they were already in fact remote operated. His only explaniation that was possible was the remote signals from the floor below or above were being read by our units and there was nothing he could do.

I half expected her go to go to the other floors and ask them to stop using their remotes becuase it was messing with out aircon machines. She didnt however.

She ended up giving up and we had a nice cool summer!


Now I like that bit of head trip. I'm not sure who was the bigger fool the manager or the repairman.
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greatunknown



Joined: 04 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
wings wrote:
Government offices and buildings are not supposed to turn on the ac until it is 28 degrees inside the building. I work in a government office and there are signs about it all over the place.


Yeah, I know. It's because the old geysers at the top aren't hot when all the younger people, kids, and foreigners are sweating their asses off. They wear coats outdoors until about a week ago for crying out loud. My school sets the thermostats downstairs at their offices for the whole school. So, the hidden remote won't work for me. But in a hakwon, I wonder if you can just buy an extra remote. Ha ha.

Anyways, the old farts love the heat and so must everyone else apparently