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JDLT
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 10:36 pm Post subject: The Daunting Task of Beginning a Career in ESL |
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When you first decided to teach English overseas how did you begin your research?
Search engine, Daveseslcafe, Waygook.org , other
And where did you first hear about teaching ESL as an option?
For me, I first began to think about teaching English after talking to my cousin, who was teaching overseas at the time during a trip back home for Christmas.
Most of my early research was spent on Daveseslcafe. To be honest, at first it was quite overwhelming and I spent hundreds of hours doing research before deciding to ultimately come over. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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1998. One dreary sunday morning I was nursing a hangover & puttering around on my old XT computer (dos command-driven, green monochrome screen) & god only knows why it sprang to mind but on a random impulse I typed "teaching english abroad" into its search engine.
A world of possibilities suddenly opened. Up till then, I'd been in a dead-end career in Canada struggling to make ends meets for 25 years. My youngest kid was about to fly the nest. Nothing holding me back.
Daves was a prominent site even then. It had a single forum format for all countries & Korea dominated the chatter. It also had a section called "Journals" that were kind of proto-blogs that I read & reread. I was hooked. Why not me too?
Lots of negativity back then too, whats new? I dithered for almost a year.
I knew I wasnt a big city guy & from the scant information online at the time I decided I wanted Sokcho & kept searching. Finally a Sokcho job ad appeared on some other now long-defunct site, & I applied & got it.
Yikes, what had I gotten myself into? So many second thoughts. My daughter, actually, pushed me to go. Take a chance, dad, whats to lose?
Korea has provided a marvelous long chapter to my life ever since, but I'm close to turning the page. |
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Hokie21
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 2:34 am Post subject: |
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I was a drug rep for a major pharma company. Growing up I moved around a lot....we had moved over 18 times before I finished HS (no we weren't military) and I had already lived on 3 different continents. Traveling was kind of in my blood so to say and I began to lose interest in my job. Layoffs happened and as I was the young buck, 3 years out of college so I was let go. I was "lucky" enough to be offered my same position but in a different part of the country but I declined and accepted a very generous severance package.
I used some of that money to travel around the world...it was initially supposed to be a 3 month trip but it turned out to be closer to 9. I spent a decent amount of time in Asia and loved it. I returned home and decided I wanted to live abroad and I realized teaching ESL overseas was a way for me to do that. That was about 3 years ago. Sure I'm making a lot less than I did in pharma but I'm a happier person.....I just miss my family and friends a lot at times. Other than that. No regrets. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 3:00 am Post subject: Re: The Daunting Task of Beginning a Career in ESL |
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JDLT wrote: |
When you first decided to teach English overseas how did you begin your research?
Search engine, Daveseslcafe, Waygook.org , other
And where did you first hear about teaching ESL as an option?
For me, I first began to think about teaching English after talking to my cousin, who was teaching overseas at the time during a trip back home for Christmas.
Most of my early research was spent on Daveseslcafe. To be honest, at first it was quite overwhelming and I spent hundreds of hours doing research before deciding to ultimately come over. |
First heard about the possibility of teaching in Japan from a friend in college. I talked to my career counselor about options. Read broshures on GEOS, AEON, and JET. I chose JET.
After teaching in the JET Program a cople years, wasn't sure what to do next but kind of liked the idea of continuing to teach, but wanted some training.
Took a TEFL course in D.C. and applied to teach in Taiwan. Worked there a year and finished thinking I was finished with TEFL (not that it was bad, just thought I'd like to settle down back home.
Then 2008 happened and as I was searching Craigslist for elusive good jobs, saw ads to work in Korean public schools (I'd heard of EPIK from a friend in Japan) and thought, well, haven't been to Korea yet, so yeah, I'll do it. Came over in 2009 and have pretty much been here since.
I wouldn't say it was a daunting task getting here. The opportunities just kind of opened up and teaching overseas was always the most interesting option. |
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MedellinHeel
Joined: 16 Jan 2014
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 3:03 am Post subject: |
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ESL is not really a career OP.
More like something people do a few years before moving back to their home country. For the people that do stay, it is usually due to marrying a Korean girl or having a kid abroad.
If you want to make ESL a career id suggest getting a MA TESOL or being state licensed to teach ESL at the International School level. |
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thrylos

Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I'll echo MedHeel's post, and might add that it isn't terribly daunting, either.
OK, Korea might be a bit more daunting than other places b/c of all the paperwork now required, but if you look at China, Indonesia, or just about any other destination (not in the ME and SK), it is hardly 'daunting'. Just pick a place, have a half-a$$ed interview with Skype/over the phone, send some paperwork, and you're off!!, usually within a month or so. (Like I did w/Korea a LONG time ago!)
PS-- I still don't consider it a 'career'-- A good, easy, mostly stress-free job that pays decently and gives me opportunity to do my thing with ease in a foreign country. Why not? Who needs a career? Not me!  |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:22 am Post subject: Re: The Daunting Task of Beginning a Career in ESL |
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JDLT wrote: |
at first it was quite overwhelming and I spent hundreds of hours doing research . |
You may be over-thinking it.
I did zero research and came here after a friend recommended it. I knew nothing about the country which only added to the adventure.
I tend to get an idea then just jump. That's why I've travelled numerous countries.
I can't stand the 'play it safe' mentality. I mean, really. Are people wrapped in cotton wool these days?.
Don't think too hard. just do. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:02 am Post subject: |
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I called a friend who was working in Korea for about a year. He told me things were a lot better for him there. He suggested I go to Korea because he knew my circumstances.
A guy I knew gave me a phone number for a recruiter. I called it and got a job.
I did zero research too. I say go try it. If you like it stay. If you don't like it go home. It's pretty simple really. |
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The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:02 am Post subject: |
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schwa wrote: |
1998. One dreary sunday morning I was nursing a hangover & puttering around on my old XT computer (dos command-driven, green monochrome screen) & god only knows why it sprang to mind but on a random impulse I typed "teaching english abroad" into its search engine.
A world of possibilities suddenly opened. Up till then, I'd been in a dead-end career in Canada struggling to make ends meets for 25 years. My youngest kid was about to fly the nest. Nothing holding me back.
Daves was a prominent site even then. It had a single forum format for all countries & Korea dominated the chatter. It also had a section called "Journals" that were kind of proto-blogs that I read & reread. I was hooked. Why not me too?
Lots of negativity back then too, whats new? I dithered for almost a year.
I knew I wasnt a big city guy & from the scant information online at the time I decided I wanted Sokcho & kept searching. Finally a Sokcho job ad appeared on some other now long-defunct site, & I applied & got it.
Yikes, what had I gotten myself into? So many second thoughts. My daughter, actually, pushed me to go. Take a chance, dad, whats to lose?
Korea has provided a marvelous long chapter to my life ever since, but I'm close to turning the page. |
Cheers to your adventure.
And here's to when you turn the page.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3khH9ih2XJg |
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Lucas
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I'll echo MedHeel's post, and might add that it isn't terribly daunting, either. |
Yeah, I'd class daunting as being a doctor at the 9/11 site, or being shot at in Iraq, or finding out that EPIK is closing down next year and that I'll have to get a real job.  |
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Malislamusrex
Joined: 01 Feb 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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I find it a little amusing every time I see ESL and career in the same sentence.
Try to think of it as a long paid holiday. Most people who come here thinking career have problems. |
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MedellinHeel
Joined: 16 Jan 2014
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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^^
It is possible to have a career in ESL.
Simply need to get a MA TESOL and find Uni work or get a state license in ESL and find work in an International School or stateside. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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MedellinHeel
Joined: 16 Jan 2014
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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yes i was speaking in a general sense.
should have clarified. |
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cbax22
Joined: 09 May 2014
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:10 am Post subject: Re: The Daunting Task of Beginning a Career in ESL |
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Chaparrastique wrote: |
JDLT wrote: |
at first it was quite overwhelming and I spent hundreds of hours doing research . |
You may be over-thinking it.
I did zero research and came here after a friend recommended it. I knew nothing about the country which only added to the adventure.
I tend to get an idea then just jump. That's why I've travelled numerous countries.
I can't stand the 'play it safe' mentality. I mean, really. Are people wrapped in cotton wool these days?.
Don't think too hard. just do. |
Ahhh. Such a refreshing perspective. I do appreciate some of the detail in these threads but after awhile it gets a little ridiculous. Nice to know EVERYONE on these boards isn't over-analyzing every aspect of this pursuit to death and making it seem much harder than it really is. |
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