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Teaching in Korea with a Criminal Record

 
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love&onlylove



Joined: 04 Jun 2014

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 11:34 pm    Post subject: Teaching in Korea with a Criminal Record Reply with quote

I'm finishing up an M.A. right now at uWaterloo (should be done by December) and am looking into teaching overseas. A lot of my friends recommended Korea and this website specifically.
I am a former long-term alcoholic and drug user and have a DUI from February 2007 on my criminal record. (Yes I know drinking and driving is insanely stupid...feel free to chastise me. Needless to say I won't be doing it again...the drinking, that is. I do drive now.)
I've initiated proceedings through Pardons Canada to get the charge pardoned, and its going smoothly because I have no other charges. Too bad "smoothly" in the Canadian Court system means "glacially". The process is going to take 10-24 (!) months. I'm pretty eager to start teaching but I'm guessing the likelihood of my getting hired with that charge on my record is dim.
I'm assuming the answer is "hell no" but is there any way I'd be able to land a teaching gig in Seoul or Busan (or anywhere in the country for that matter?) before the pardon kicks in? Do Korean custom officials differentiate between violent and non-violent charges, or between summary and indictable offences (mine being the former)? Or should I just wait out the 24 months until I receive a full pardon until applying for ESL work in Korea?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help with these questions. Very Happy
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cant get a legit job in Korea with any blemish on your record. No leeway from Korean immigration.
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Kepler



Joined: 24 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't even bother submitting a background check if your record is not 100% percent clean. You might be permanently banned from ever teaching in Korea. Also- admitting to any drug use on the self health questionnaire will result in an automatic rejection. I am not sure that Korea is the best place for a recovering alcoholic. There is plenty of temptation here and drinking is very much a part of the work culture.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kepler wrote:
I wouldn't even bother submitting a background check if your record is not 100% percent clean. You might be permanently banned from ever teaching in Korea. Also- admitting to any drug use on the self health questionnaire will result in an automatic rejection. I am not sure that Korea is the best place for a recovering alcoholic. There is plenty of temptation here and drinking is very much a part of the work culture.




Do not submit your CBC to Korean Immigration until your record has been expunged.

You have almost zero chance of being accepted if your record isn't clean,
and once rejected, your record will remain on file in Korea even after being expunged at home.

Be patient. Get clean. Then apply.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
Kepler wrote:
I wouldn't even bother submitting a background check if your record is not 100% percent clean. You might be permanently banned from ever teaching in Korea. Also- admitting to any drug use on the self health questionnaire will result in an automatic rejection. I am not sure that Korea is the best place for a recovering alcoholic. There is plenty of temptation here and drinking is very much a part of the work culture.




Do not submit your CBC to Korean Immigration until your record has been expunged.

You have almost zero chance of being accepted if your record isn't clean,
and once rejected, your record will remain on file in Korea even after being expunged at home.

Be patient. Get clean. Then apply.


Agree 100%. I would also warn anyone who has any legal procedings of any kind going on in their home country to never reveal where you work. I know a guy in Seoul who was going through a divorce in his home country, and legal papers started coming out of his school's fax machine one day. They fired him immediately.

Now he is unemployed and divorced.
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waynehead



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to look at China first. The pay's not as great (usually) but the restrictions aren't as tight, either. I'm not sure about Japan, but it might be worth looking into, too.
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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Home sweet home

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes you can. I personally know of two people who have

One was for drunk driving. He wrote a letter promising never to drive in Korea.

The other was for assaulting a federal officer. Also got an E2.

Both of their convictions were old. The guy arrested for assault said that the kimmi officer glanced at it and said many people of his generation have records due to the protest.

Does that mean that you won't get denied? No. You might not get a visa but realize that it depends on
The conviction.
How long ago it was
The kimmi officer
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sweetrevenge



Joined: 24 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know a guy in Seoul who was going through a divorce in his home country, and legal papers started coming out of his school's fax machine one day. They fired him immediately.



What so its illegal to have personal problems in your life? Why would they fire you for something that doesn't effect your job at all.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweetrevenge wrote:
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I know a guy in Seoul who was going through a divorce in his home country, and legal papers started coming out of his school's fax machine one day. They fired him immediately.



What so its illegal to have personal problems in your life? Why would they fire you for something that doesn't effect your job at all.


Anything that looks like a court document, police document, or even a lawyer's letter is enough to get image concious Koreans to fire a foreigner. Rumors will abound. They don't want to deal with it.

The guy I know said they just kept sending stuff through the fax machine. There is no way to stop those kind of people from doing that. The Koreans will want to sever the relationship immediately.
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Henry.Flix



Joined: 02 Jun 2014

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on your nationality background checks may be referred to as criminal record checks, police checks, basic disclosures or police clearance certificates.

All teachers must submit specific types of criminal record checks (CRC) from the designated issuing authority within their country of citizenship.

CRC's issued through third party providers are not acceptable by Korean Immigration; meaning, you can NOT use a private company or channeler to obtain the CRC. All background checks must come directly from the designated police department or government office/bureau that’s responsible for issuing the type of check Korean Immigration requires. CRCs that were ordered online and come as ‘print outs’ are NOT accepted by the Korean authorities.
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