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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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There is talk of more casinos. And Universal Studios is coming so that will be a draw.
I don't think they need to keep the pools open in October. Is there anything about a public pool that is really tourist-worthy? I'm not sure what you mean about closing the beaches. How do you close a beach?
There are some cruise ships now landing at Busan. That will probably grow. Skiing tourism should be helped by the Winter Olympics.
Sure, most of this is aimed at Asian tourists, but that just makes good sense. They don't really want the backpacker set. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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There is talk of more casinos. And Universal Studios is coming so that will be a draw.
I don't think they need to keep the pools open in October. Is there anything about a public pool that is really tourist-worthy? I'm not sure what you mean about closing the beaches. How do you close a beach?
There are some cruise ships now landing at Busan. That will probably grow. Skiing tourism should be helped by the Winter Olympics.
Sure, most of this is aimed at Asian tourists, but that just makes good sense. They don't really want the backpacker set. |
I mean no lifegaurds on duty, and no infrastructure set up and locally outdoor restaurants and the like out of comission. You can go to other more glamorous palces for Casinos. I wouldn't come here for those. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| “Korea needs a new slogan that reflects the new dynamism of the country ― representing its present and future,” Byun Choo-suk, president of the Korea Tourism Organization, told The Korea Herald last week. “The current slogan sounds too local, abstract and fails to conceptualize the image of Korea.” |
Are tourism slogans even efficacious? It seems like every city in Korea has an absurd English slogan as well, and it's almost invariably one which has little relationship with the actual city. I can't say I've ever felt a need to visit a city in response to one, and I don't see why it would be different at a national level. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think they need to keep the pools open in October. Is there anything about a public pool that is really tourist-worthy? I'm not sure what you mean about closing the beaches. How do you close a beach?
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They don't close the beaches, they just remove all the sun loungers, umbrellas, banana boats for hire etc... Plus they stop roping off the tiny area where you're allowed to swim, or rather paddle. So basically early September is the best time to go to the beach, unless your primary motivation is to ogle Korean girls in shorts and T.shirts. I remember swimming off Haeundai around that time and we were the only ones in the water. The Koreans looked at us like we were insane but the water was lovely. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think they need to keep the pools open in October. Is there anything about a public pool that is really tourist-worthy? I'm not sure what you mean about closing the beaches. How do you close a beach?
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They don't close the beaches, they just remove all the sun loungers, umbrellas, banana boats for hire etc... Plus they stop roping off the tiny area where you're allowed to swim, or rather paddle. So basically early September is the best time to go to the beach, unless your primary motivation is to ogle Korean girls in shorts and T.shirts. I remember swimming off Haeundai around that time and we were the only ones in the water. The Koreans looked at us like we were insane but the water was lovely. |
Been there done that. It was really quite nice in September isn't it? October is good too. But, after the middle it does get border line chilly. Haven't been in years. Maybe I'll go this year in mid October and have the locals view me as crazy again. Ha ha.
But, yeah if they had some festivals or beach events and open restaurants with patios on the strip, it would be a nice place for overseas western tourists. Also, the East Sea would be nice in spots.
But, I come from places with beaches like this --->
https://twitter.com/ms_hannahmorton/status/467329550612201472/photo/1 (Have no idea who the person is; just took the pic)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/72611070@N00/1449018891/in/photolist-3d3AQk-3d3CFz-3d3Dr4-3d3E4M-3d3EMM-3d3FeB-3d3Hj4-3d3HLv-3d3Jdp-3d3Nyr-3d3NZ8-3d3Uic-3d3Vwa-3d3VR4-3d3ZWk-3d46wT-3d4aNH-3d4bFn-3d4h2V-3d4hDp-3d4i58-3d4juT-3d4jLE-3d4kEX-3d4oby-3d4qYL-3d5hV9-3d5m3b-3d5pGs-3d5woU-3d5AP9-3d5Ebw-3d5G2b-3d5Vrs-3d5Y1q-3d6nYq-3d6ziG-3d6FhJ-3d6Mr9-3d6S23-3d6SXW-3d6W5A-3d71xU-3d72EJ-3d74TC-3d78y5-3d7epu-3d7fzU-3d7hhm-3d7iid-3d7ji3 (Same here, no idea of the person)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/72611070@N00/1449132747/in/photolist-3d4bFn-3d4h2V-3d4hDp-3d4i58-3d4juT-3d4jLE-3d4kEX-3d4oby-3d4qYL-3d5hV9-3d5m3b-3d5pGs-3d5woU-3d5AP9-3d5Ebw-3d5G2b-3d5Vrs-3d5Y1q-3d6nYq-3d6ziG-3d6FhJ-3d6Mr9-3d6S23-3d6SXW-3d6W5A-3d71xU-3d72EJ-3d74TC-3d78y5-3d7epu-3d7fzU-3d7hhm-3d7iid-3d7ji3-3d7rby-3d7wfW-3d7yYd-3d7BPf-3d7DMb-3d7EDW-3d7HW9-3d7JrS-3d7KNq-3d7PHm-3d7RAb-3d7ShQ-3d7T2W-3d7WHd-3d85wS-3d86aW-3d89nY
https://www.flickr.com/photos/26354008@N03/3602024348/in/photolist-6uijm5-6uijnu-6vKw5W-6B2tjU-6EYAQ4-6LKtmo-6MvVJb-6NiHag-6Nj6ig-6No2Rm-6NoeP1-6SQiLY-713Ebm-72SdvE-76B682-7s7woe-7s7wpK-7s7xNg-7s7xPT-7sbtCj-7sbtDJ-7sbu3S-8mv98H-8mynSb-94xeky-k7hmZj-8mcWn4-8mcWnz-aacUB5-aacVcy-aaa5Hk-aVRY5p-cRMB2b-9gAMbM-bvpekD-cC9sVs-8D5ZQV-8D95tS-8D96RS-8D95KE-8D615k-8D9a6d-8D98H5-8D98wJ-8D9aiU-8D61z8-8D62D2-8D9aJj-8D63Xx-8D97U1-iDDuAw
So, anyways, you'll forgive me for being less than enthusiastic about most beaches anywhere's. Never came here for the beaches, just to escape the bad economy. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Also this posting by user MonctonRad. (User is not me, BTW. Just google searching).
http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6350839
Korean beaches will always suck comapred to these. But, still if Busan kept up the party feel through other parts of the year, they might be onto something rather than shutting it all down by the end of Augsut. I would never go there in summer as it's humid, rainy, cloudy, and way too packed with people. No thanks Haeundae. Guess I've beenspoiled by good beaches for much of my first 20 something years. ha ha. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think they need to keep the pools open in October. Is there anything about a public pool that is really tourist-worthy? I'm not sure what you mean about closing the beaches. How do you close a beach?
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They don't close the beaches, they just remove all the sun loungers, umbrellas, banana boats for hire etc... Plus they stop roping off the tiny area where you're allowed to swim, or rather paddle. So basically early September is the best time to go to the beach, unless your primary motivation is to ogle Korean girls in shorts and T.shirts. I remember swimming off Haeundai around that time and we were the only ones in the water. The Koreans looked at us like we were insane but the water was lovely. |
That's what I figured, but wanted to know for sure.
And I'm with you; that would be the best time to go. Being forced to stay in a roped-off area really takes the fun out of things. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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According to this the sea temperature is over 26 degrees in August. Insane! I mean that ain't gonna cool you down. Haeundae.
http://www.seatemperature.org/asia/south-korea/busan-august.htm
I think back home it goes up to 19 degrees. It feels cold when you first get in but then after a minute your body adapts to it. So, autumn at Haeundae, here I come. Ha ha.
Even in November (I assume the early part), it probably still warm enough.
http://www.seatemperature.org/asia/south-korea/busan-november.htm
I use to go in the water when it was cooler in the afternoons while the water temps were warmer due to being heated up all summer during September in Canada.
You can still swim at Haeundae from mid October to mid November. You just need a big warm towel to dry off with quickly once you get out of the water.
It's ridiculous to think that a water temperature over 20 degrees is considered cold. But, that's just how they roll here.... |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:57 am Post subject: |
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According to this the sea temperature is over 26 degrees in August. Insane! I mean that ain't gonna cool you down. Haeundae.
http://www.seatemperature.org/asia/south-korea/busan-august.htm
I think back home it goes up to 19 degrees. It feels cold when you first get in but then after a minute your body adapts to it. So, autumn at Haeundae, here I come. Ha ha.
Even in November (I assume the early part), it probably still warm enough.
http://www.seatemperature.org/asia/south-korea/busan-november.htm
I use to go in the water when it was cooler in the afternoons while the water temps were warmer due to being heated up all summer during September in Canada.
You can still swim at Haeundae from mid October to mid November. You just need a big warm towel to dry off with quickly once you get out of the water.
It's ridiculous to think that a water temperature over 20 degrees is considered cold. But, that's just how they roll here.... |
You wouldn't have polar bear blood by any chance?
Besides, part of the beach experience is laying out in the sun. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
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According to this the sea temperature is over 26 degrees in August. Insane! I mean that ain't gonna cool you down. Haeundae.
http://www.seatemperature.org/asia/south-korea/busan-august.htm
I think back home it goes up to 19 degrees. It feels cold when you first get in but then after a minute your body adapts to it. So, autumn at Haeundae, here I come. Ha ha.
Even in November (I assume the early part), it probably still warm enough.
http://www.seatemperature.org/asia/south-korea/busan-november.htm
I use to go in the water when it was cooler in the afternoons while the water temps were warmer due to being heated up all summer during September in Canada.
You can still swim at Haeundae from mid October to mid November. You just need a big warm towel to dry off with quickly once you get out of the water.
It's ridiculous to think that a water temperature over 20 degrees is considered cold. But, that's just how they roll here.... |
You wouldn't have polar bear blood by any chance?
Besides, part of the beach experience is laying out in the sun. |
I've given up trying to understand his cold tolerance lol. He's just someone who likes cooler weather compared to most other people. He just wrote that swimming is fine in October and November which would be insane even in the states.
California's climate is pretty similar to here in October and November at times, and the only people you will find in the water are surfers. It's simply too cold. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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According to this the sea temperature is over 26 degrees in August. Insane! I mean that ain't gonna cool you down. Haeundae.
http://www.seatemperature.org/asia/south-korea/busan-august.htm
I think back home it goes up to 19 degrees. It feels cold when you first get in but then after a minute your body adapts to it. So, autumn at Haeundae, here I come. Ha ha.
Even in November (I assume the early part), it probably still warm enough.
http://www.seatemperature.org/asia/south-korea/busan-november.htm
I use to go in the water when it was cooler in the afternoons while the water temps were warmer due to being heated up all summer during September in Canada.
You can still swim at Haeundae from mid October to mid November. You just need a big warm towel to dry off with quickly once you get out of the water.
It's ridiculous to think that a water temperature over 20 degrees is considered cold. But, that's just how they roll here.... |
You wouldn't have polar bear blood by any chance?
Besides, part of the beach experience is laying out in the sun. |
I've given up trying to understand his cold tolerance lol. He's just someone who likes cooler weather compared to most other people. He just wrote that swimming is fine in October and November which would be insane even in the states.
California's climate is pretty similar to here in October and November at times, and the only people you will find in the water are surfers. It's simply too cold. |
You guys must be part Korean. Are you bundled up in coats in October too? Ha ha.
According to these past historical averages, the water at Haeundae has been heated from the long summer and is still in the 20's (Celcius not Fareinheit).
http://www.seatemperature.org/asia/south-korea/busan-october.htm
I always assumed over 20 or 21 was shorts and t shirt weather. Anything under that say in the teens required a light coat, while getting into the mid to low single digits required a winter coat.
October temps are usually in the 20's in the afternoons along with the water temperature. (But, for the record, I do feel the need to wear a light coat or sweatshirt in the mornings after mid October, but by afternoons, it's perfect.)
Took this for Daejeon last year. Most days were 20 degrees or higher. Is that the new cold? Is 30 now the new 20?
http://weather.naver.com/period/pastWetrMain.nhn?ym=201310&upperNaverRgnCd=07
Geeze, you guys must be crying home to momma when the schools don't turn on the heat until well into December.
All the white dudes I know are always complaining about the lack of air con here. I assumed it had to do with the fact our bodies were conditioned to the cold or something and their to the heat. I mean 26 degree water temperature in August ain't gonna cool you down in summer. But, I think they're just pre disposed to heat. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm with 74. I rarely find it cold here. I never wear a winter jacket (just a fall one). And swimming in sept/oct sounds awesome to me. As well, I'm very uncomfortable here in the summer with the heat and humidity. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm with 74. I rarely find it cold here. I never wear a winter jacket (just a fall one). And swimming in sept/oct sounds awesome to me. As well, I'm very uncomfortable here in the summer with the heat and humidity. |
Finally, I knew there was another like me out there. Ha ha. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| “Korea needs a new slogan that reflects the new dynamism of the country ― representing its present and future,” Byun Choo-suk, president of the Korea Tourism Organization, told The Korea Herald last week. “The current slogan sounds too local, abstract and fails to conceptualize the image of Korea.” |
Are tourism slogans even efficacious? It seems like every city in Korea has an absurd English slogan as well, and it's almost invariably one which has little relationship with the actual city. I can't say I've ever felt a need to visit a city in response to one, and I don't see why it would be different at a national level. |
The place I live's "slogan" is "Good". Good Chungju... *sigh* I suppose that's a little better than slightly north of us "Healthy" Wonju... |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Underwaterbob wrote: |
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| “Korea needs a new slogan that reflects the new dynamism of the country ― representing its present and future,” Byun Choo-suk, president of the Korea Tourism Organization, told The Korea Herald last week. “The current slogan sounds too local, abstract and fails to conceptualize the image of Korea.” |
Are tourism slogans even efficacious? It seems like every city in Korea has an absurd English slogan as well, and it's almost invariably one which has little relationship with the actual city. I can't say I've ever felt a need to visit a city in response to one, and I don't see why it would be different at a national level. |
The place I live's "slogan" is "Good". Good Chungju... *sigh* I suppose that's a little better than slightly north of us "Healthy" Wonju... |
I especially like "Wonderfull Samcheok" (it's spelled that way on the taxis I've seen) and "Colorful Daegu" (a monotone city if ever there was one). |
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