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atwood



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Chinese and Japanese take package tours and miss all that for the most part. And the Chinese are much like Koreans, or vice-versa truth be told, in that they take little notice of the people around them.


Yes, I saw a clip from a documentary recently with some Chinese tourists visiting London. The tour guide on the bus made some crack about fish and chips and English food being crap then took them all to Chinatown for, I imagine, one of many lunches. Probably didn't even give them a chance to make their own minds up about the local cuisine.

There was a New Yorker piece where the reporter accompanied a Chinese tour group to Paris. As in the above story, the tour guide criticized the local food and the Chinese only ate at Chinese restaurants for something like nine days. The reporter couldn't take it any more and had to sneak off to a McDonald's for a cheese royale.
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
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The Chinese and Japanese take package tours and miss all that for the most part. And the Chinese are much like Koreans, or vice-versa truth be told, in that they take little notice of the people around them.


Yes, I saw a clip from a documentary recently with some Chinese tourists visiting London. The tour guide on the bus made some crack about fish and chips and English food being crap then took them all to Chinatown for, I imagine, one of many lunches. Probably didn't even give them a chance to make their own minds up about the local cuisine.


Sounds like good old fashioned nationalism. Reminds me of those Korean tour groups that use to travel to other countries and they would bring Korean food with them. They wold never eat other foods. I mean it kind of defeats the whole point of travelling.

But, what is with people being in their own space and never noticing other people or thinking of them? I'd really be curious to find out what it is in Asian culture that creates this "me, me, me" thinking in spite of being so group oriented.
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of tourism, I just noticed something new. Are the new road signs in your town being changed? They have the street names in Korean and the Roman Alphabet. But, the directions to places are only written in Korean whereas the previous versions were written in English and Korean. For example, Shi Cheong, Do Cheong, etc written in Hanguel but no English beside it anymore. I can understand it, but some foriegn toursits renting a car might have difficulty with this.

Don't know if it's an oversight or a new type of suttle nationalism by the generation taking over. "We're Korea; we only speak Korean here."
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea's in denial about tourism here. There's really nothing here outside of a few Buddhist places and historical sites (e.g., DMZ) that attract people. K-pop and hallyu have a limited shelf life (J-pop was popular in the region for a time but no longer), and well, I think "Gangnam Style" is one of the most bizarre hits in a long time but will eventually wane with no new K-pop song to take its place.

Beaches? Haeundae and Gwangalli hardly impress.

Historical sites? As many mentioned earlier, many such venues aren't foreigner friendly and China and Japan can be considered superior in that aspect. I remember a Chinese American whom I took to Gyeongbuk Palace not being impressed by seeing the museum inside (they all looked like stuff in China, and that was a eureka moment for me, but I digress).

Nightlife? Seoul has its spots but lots of places are so overpriced and such, though I would give a bit of props to the city's nightlife.

Food is an area where Korea can do well given the rising popularity of Korean cuisine abroad, but the government seems to want to promote it its own way and...

I hear Japan has better places for skiing, hot springs and a host of other activities.

Medical tourism? Sorry, but Thailand is far advanced in that respect.

I remember reading somewhere or hearing from someone that perhaps the government should focus on what foreign tourists are interested in instead of deciding for itself what it wants foreign tourists to be interested in. I don't see that happening for a long time, though.
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atwood



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
Korea's in denial about tourism here. There's really nothing here outside of a few Buddhist places and historical sites (e.g., DMZ) that attract people. K-pop and hallyu have a limited shelf life (J-pop was popular in the region for a time but no longer), and well, I think "Gangnam Style" is one of the most bizarre hits in a long time but will eventually wane with no new K-pop song to take its place.

Beaches? Haeundae and Gwangalli hardly impress.

Historical sites? As many mentioned earlier, many such venues aren't foreigner friendly and China and Japan can be considered superior in that aspect. I remember a Chinese American whom I took to Gyeongbuk Palace not being impressed by seeing the museum inside (they all looked like stuff in China, and that was a eureka moment for me, but I digress).

Nightlife? Seoul has its spots but lots of places are so overpriced and such, though I would give a bit of props to the city's nightlife.

Food is an area where Korea can do well given the rising popularity of Korean cuisine abroad, but the government seems to want to promote it its own way and...

I hear Japan has better places for skiing, hot springs and a host of other activities.

Medical tourism? Sorry, but Thailand is far advanced in that respect.

I remember reading somewhere or hearing from someone that perhaps the government should focus on what foreign tourists are interested in instead of deciding for itself what it wants foreign tourists to be interested in. I don't see that happening for a long time, though.

I agree for the most part, but medical tourism in the forms of plastic surgery and dentistry is a big hit with Chinese and Japanese tourists.

It seems that for the most part Asian tourists come here to shop for goods and services that are cheaper than comparable ones in their home countries. They're not looking for all that much in the way of sightseeing, museums, etc.

And that makes sense considering that Korean manufacturing competes mostly on price rather than on quality or value.
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optik404



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Domestically, Hallyu/Kpop is slowly dying, but internationally (Asia), Kpop seems like it's more popular than ever. When I was taking Korean lessons at Yonsei in 2008, all my female classmates said they came to learn because of kpop or a drama they saw.

A friend of mine that is at Yonsei now learning Korean told me the same thing. All his female classmates came because they like kpop. I don't see Hallyu dying out anytime soon overseas.
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's amazing how many rich parents there are out there willing to spend a fortune on their daughter's useless foreign education. I also meet a ton of them wanting to do masters in the UK in very little chance of a return on your huge investment subjects like fashion/design/art/sculpture etc...all bankrolled by Daddy presumably.
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

optik404 wrote:
Domestically, Hallyu/Kpop is slowly dying, but internationally (Asia), Kpop seems like it's more popular than ever. When I was taking Korean lessons at Yonsei in 2008, all my female classmates said they came to learn because of kpop or a drama they saw.

A friend of mine that is at Yonsei now learning Korean told me the same thing. All his female classmates came because they like kpop. I don't see Hallyu dying out anytime soon overseas.


Yes, but thanks to the Internet and media, people worldwide can be fickle, and since many Korean dramas and K-pop song seem alike...
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Fox



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
It's amazing how many rich parents there are out there willing to spend a fortune on their daughter's useless foreign education. I also meet a ton of them wanting to do masters in the UK in very little chance of a return on your huge investment subjects like fashion/design/art/sculpture etc...all bankrolled by Daddy presumably.


It's probably less about economic returns than it is about status and signalling.
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