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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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 Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| OBwannabe wrote: |
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I was making $20/hr back in Canada with some really great benefits. But as I wasn't wise enough to pay off my student loans during my first stint in Korea + the rising cost of living, not much of that 20 bucks per hour was left at the end of the month. Luckily I paid cash for me crappy old car, because a car payment would have killed me. So here I am back in Korea because I just didn't see myself getting ahead back home on that salary. Overtime will help though...unfortunately that proved impossible due to some health issues.
With all sincerity, good luck. I hope you kill it back home.
Ttompatz
May I ask how old you were when you showed up in Korea with little more than a suitcase? Did you not have a tidy little nest-egg from your IT days? How many years have you been in the ESL circus? Your accomplishments are certainly impressive. |
I'm guessing he's had mommy and daddy supporting him or pacifying him all along with his attitude toward others whom he considers "beneath" him. I could go open a school too if I had the financial backings/support(DUH)! I'd also bet that his "daily speaking" money comes from how he tells others about the money he contributes and which charities/cults to contribute because he's such a good person.  I just wonder why since he's such a good person he doesn't("network") tell us who he is  |
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DaeguNL
Joined: 08 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: 20 + per hour and 60 hours per week |
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| congrats man, you make about as much as anybody that has been here for a few years. What's that about 40k after tax? I know a lot of lowly teachers making that working 30 hours a week. |
Please outline how everybody who has been here a few years ends up making 40k/year after tax. Explain how this is done. I'm not much of a networker, so maybe I'm out of the loop, but I don't really buy what you say. There have been some experienced teachers here having trouble getting work the past couple years.
Anyway, congratulations OP. If your new job is satisfying, you've made the right move. You'll make more and you'll be building towards a better future. |
Search the craigslist job ads. You will find afterschool programs
paying up to 3 mil a month for 5 hours a day. Do a pt tues/thurs
2 hours a day for 35,000 an hour. Congratulations, you are now making
40k a year for 29 hours a week! |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| OBwannabe wrote: |
Ttompatz
May I ask how old you were when you showed up in Korea with little more than a suitcase? Did you not have a tidy little nest-egg from your IT days? How many years have you been in the ESL circus? Your accomplishments are certainly impressive. |
Over 40.
Nesteg stuck in an RRSP. Not much in the way of loose cash when I came over but I wasn't worried about my retirement either.
It is going on 16 years for my instant success in EFL.
It is not that the accomplishments are impressive but they are cumulative and anyone who wants to can do it too.
Each piece adds to the previous piece.
Stay current in the field.
Update the qualifications that you need when you need them.
Keep a wide focus. There is more to teaching than just teaching.
NETWORK, NETWORK, NETWORK.
Get out, be seen, be heard, learn, connect.
Professional organizations are cheap to join and the opportunities that will find you far outweigh the cost in time and membership fees.
Just stay out of the politics of it all. (hint: you want to be the presenter and not the president).
Add value to what you can do then sell it.
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DaeguNL
Joined: 08 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| OBwannabe wrote: |
Ttompatz
May I ask how old you were when you showed up in Korea with little more than a suitcase? Did you not have a tidy little nest-egg from your IT days? How many years have you been in the ESL circus? Your accomplishments are certainly impressive. |
Over 40.
Nesteg stuck in an RRSP. Not much in the way of loose cash when I came over but I wasn't worried about my retirement either.
It is going on 16 years for my instant success in EFL.
It is not that the accomplishments are impressive but they are cumulative and anyone who wants to can do it too.
Each piece adds to the previous piece.
Stay current in the field.
Update the qualifications that you need when you need them.
Keep a wide focus. There is more to teaching than just teaching.
NETWORK, NETWORK, NETWORK.
Get out, be seen, be heard, learn, connect.
Professional organizations are cheap to join and the opportunities that will find you far outweigh the cost in time and membership fees.
Just stay out of the politics of it all. (hint: you want to be the presenter and not the president).
Add value to what you can do then sell it.
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This is about the best advice anyone can give.
The best jobs here don't get posted online.
A bit of Korean ability goes a long way as well. |
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Ttompatz speaks the truth, especially about networking. But that goes for back home too.
THere are opportunities in EFL in Asia for sure but they won't come to you just because you're white, still in your 30's and have a distance MA TESOL from sandwichuniversity.uk.edu.
The question you have to ask yourselves is do you WANT to live in KOREA for MOST of your life? If not there, then where? CHina? THailand? I don't know about you but I want to live where stuff works and I sure as hell don't want to be 63 years old humping it around Seoul, Beijing, Chongqing or whatever crowded polluted city in Asia for work.
You can do as Ttompatz but he came over here after making something of himself back home. He was mature and he had seen up and downs of the 80s and 90s. He obviously brought his smarts and skills gained during those good and bad times.
Most of the thirty somethings I met (most of whom claimed they were making crazy money back home already...yeah right.) had none of that kind of ambition. THey just wanted a job with ample free time and low tax. EFL in Korea can give that but it won't last forever. THen you'll be just another one of those losers that Koreans always ask "when are you going home?"
Networking is everything. I networked my ass off and got a job back home that gves me NORMAL working hours (9-5) and great benefits. I started taking home a little less (about $3500 CAD per month)than I was teaching EFL in Korea (anywhere from 4-5 million won a month working 2 jobs legally sprinkled with privates) but after 1.5 years, I'm due for a raise that will push me over that hump. In another 10 years if all goes well, I'll be way further ahead than if I stayed teaching english in S Korea.
Also, ESL girls from Korea and Japan warm up to you WAY MORE when you say your job isn't an ESL teaching. |
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