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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Contact FLAg Association at 070.7525.4347.
I think the name of the person I contacted was Jay. They are Legal Assistance provider for Foreign Nationals (Actual Lawyers). I had a similar case in March. School terminated the contract mid-term and basically kicked me out. I was homeless and broke. They replaced me with someone who got paid less. Dont let these Schools get away with it. FLAg Association barely charges anything. They got me one month pay and housing compensation reimbursement. Good luck~ |
The difference is that you were legally employed and had a visa.
The OP is not and does not (in fact, at the time of the writing, if nothing had been done he would have been illegally in the country in an overstay position).
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| reminiscink wrote: |
Contact FLAg Association at 070.7525.4347.
I think the name of the person I contacted was Jay. They are Legal Assistance provider for Foreign Nationals (Actual Lawyers). I had a similar case in March. School terminated the contract mid-term and basically kicked me out. I was homeless and broke. They replaced me with someone who got paid less. Dont let these Schools get away with it. FLAg Association barely charges anything. They got me one month pay and housing compensation reimbursement. Good luck~ |
The difference is that you were legally employed and had a visa.
The OP is not and does not (in fact, at the time of the writing, if nothing had been done he would have been illegally in the country in an overstay position).
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| Hi guys, I just wanted to clarify couple things here. In the event that you are fired, (doesnt matter how the contract is worded) you do not need to pay anything back. In fact, they need to pay you severance as well as flight tickets in some cases. If you or anyone you know were let go recently (less than 12 months ago), contact me 070.7525.4347 |
Nice advertising.
Actually I see that your first post states you used the services of the organization your are promoting and it seems that they collected the one month salary and housing that constitutes the one month notice that is required and considered standard. Nothing special.
| your first post on Dave's: Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:41 pm wrote: |
reminiscink wrote:
Contact FLAg Association at 070.7525.4347.
I think the name of the person I contacted was Jay. They are Legal Assistance provider for Foreign Nationals (Actual Lawyers). I had a similar case in March. School terminated the contract mid-term and basically kicked me out. I was homeless and broke. They replaced me with someone who got paid less. Dont let these Schools get away with it. FLAg Association barely charges anything. They got me one month pay and housing compensation reimbursement. Good luck~ |
This means that you have no basis for your claims about not paying anything back, severance, flight tickets etc.
As far as this group:
Do they offer free initial consultations or is there a fee?
Do they work pro bono, or with fees contingent on amounts collected as a percentage (without a retainer), or do they require an up-front payment for services where the teacher takes all the risk?
(BTW: Are you a teacher or are you part of this group soliciting business?) |
Not really sure what your problem is but... I was teaching English here and got screwed. As for your question, they do have a signup fee for people who want security regarding legal issues. However, its a different story if you are fired. I took the time to submit my case at the Labor committee but all they did was write a letter to my employer asking them to respond. In the end, nothing happened and they were fined 278,000 won while I was out of a job with little to nothing in my acct. I was just sharing information on places you can get help from. I mean seriously, I dont know anyone that will pay 1 mil won as penalty for getting fired. Even if you quit, you are not entitled to pay anything... but you do need a lawyer for that so I was merely suggesting FLAg (I know this from experience). Thats all. It wasnt directed at you in anyway nor was I being obnoxious. You should really watch what you say about others who are only trying to offer help. I dont get paid to mention FLAg. I just had a good experience with them. The consultation with them is free. They are an actual Attorney and not someone trying to act like one. I would've just went about my day after I got screwed probably working at another school with a bad taste in my mouth. They assisted me with housing, visa, and compensation with no upfront fee. I tried all the Legal places mentioned here. Got nowhere. |
Here's the problem:
First you posted as a teacher on April 29, 2014. You were promoting this Flag group of attys (is there only one?) for helping you get what anyone can get from the labor office.
Then, on July 6, 2014, you came back and you were posting as a lawyer working for Flag and making all kinds of promises. You also edited your first and only post until then where you were posing as a teacher on July 6, 2014.
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reminiscink
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:41 pm Post subject:
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Contact FLAg Association at 070.7525.4347.
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However, your original post had been quoted by Ttompatz, so it was still saved:
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:35 pm Post subject:
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reminiscink wrote:
Contact FLAg Association at 070.7525.4347.
I think the name of the person I contacted was Jay. They are Legal Assistance provider for Foreign Nationals (Actual Lawyers). I had a similar case in March. School terminated the contract mid-term and basically kicked me out. I was homeless and broke. They replaced me with someone who got paid less. Dont let these Schools get away with it. FLAg Association barely charges anything. They got me one month pay and housing compensation reimbursement. Good luck~
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http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=232445&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
Your posts on July 6th:
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reminiscink
Joined: 14 Apr 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:40 pm Post subject:
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I may be able to you with your missing pension. If you have any type of paper trail such as a contract, paystub, or bank statement, it will make it easier. However, if you dont have any of these, most of the time, the school info and the name of the director at the time will suffice. We can look up their info and current address to issue a court order. The missing amount from 02 - 06 will have to be calculated as well as the interest that you would've gained for the last 10+ years including the change of currency value. It's a substantial amount. contact me at 070.7527.4347.
Now, with that said, there are times when contracts will mention the NPS. Even if you are not eligible for it. Some schools know this but mention it anyway. It's like a loophole in the contract. Collecting 3.3% tax which only pays for govnt tax and not the resident tax, will make you ineligible for NPS. The only way to verify this is to refer back to your teaching contract. This type of practice is indeed illegal, but not many people do anything about it. |
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=233502
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reminiscink
Joined: 14 Apr 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:33 pm Post subject:
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Hi guys, I just wanted to clarify couple things here. In the event that you are fired, (doesnt matter how the contract is worded) you do not need to pay anything back. In fact, they need to pay you severance as well as flight tickets in some cases. If you or anyone you know were let go recently (less than 12 months ago), contact me 070.7525.4347 |
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reminiscink
Joined: 14 Apr 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:08 pm Post subject:
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Usurname wrote:
reminiscink wrote:
Hi guys, I just wanted to clarify couple things here. In the event that you are fired, (doesnt matter how the contract is worded) you do not need to pay anything back. In fact, they need to pay you severance as well as flight tickets in some cases. If you or anyone you know were let go recently (less than 12 months ago), contact me 070.7525.4347
What if you quit? Then do you need to pay back?
Not necessarily, we would have to review your contract and confirm it but in most cases, you do not have to pay anything back. Again, I strongly advise anyone going through this to contact us. We will help you figure this out and get everything you deserve including the letter of release. |
So, as we can all clearly see, you have been posing as a teacher and as a lawyer. Clearly you tried to erase your original identity, but failed unknowingly, when you decided to post as a lawyer. Then, when caught, you switched back to being a teacher, but you didn't edit your posts as a lawyer.
It's fairly clear that you're trying to drum up business. It seems that you might actually be a lawyer and that you are named Jay or use that as your English name.
It's also fairly clear that you are not completely conversant regarding the technical legalites of contractual labor matters, beyond the fact that there are some easy cases that you can collect on.
This was quite a ham handed attempt to drum up business, but you certainly have confirmed my faith in lawyers who I esteem in the same high category as recruiters, politicians and other purveyors of unadulterated bovine excrement. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Is it really true that E 2s can't work for an after school program? Why would that be? I know plenty in my town that do it. Pay is low, like a uni, but they work less hours. I'd do it my self to relieve the deskwarming except my provincial EPIK level 1+ pay is just too hard to walk away from. Dropping to 2.0 or 2.1 would be too hard to handle. Lol.
Anyways, guessing it's just your employer that can't or won't hire E2s and not the after school programs itself. |
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DaeguNL
Joined: 08 Sep 2009
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Is it really true that E 2s can't work for an after school program? Why would that be? I know plenty in my town that do it. Pay is low, like a uni, but they work less hours. I'd do it my self to relieve the deskwarming except my provincial EPIK level 1+ pay is just too hard to walk away from. Dropping to 2.0 or 2.1 would be too hard to handle. Lol.
Anyways, guessing it's just your employer that can't or won't hire E2s and not the after school programs itself. |
They can work for an afterschool, It is just easier for the company to hire an F-series visa. I find the afterschools around seoul pay pretty well.
http://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/edu/4529476016.html
That one is offering 3.2 for 6 hours a day.
http://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/edu/4562999189.html
this one is offering 2.3 + housing (or 500,000), also 6 hours/day
personally I'd take 5-6 hours at an afterschool, over 8-9 at a public school any day of the week. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Is it really true that E 2s can't work for an after school program? Why would that be? I know plenty in my town that do it. Pay is low, like a uni, but they work less hours. I'd do it my self to relieve the deskwarming except my provincial EPIK level 1+ pay is just too hard to walk away from. Dropping to 2.0 or 2.1 would be too hard to handle. Lol.
Anyways, guessing it's just your employer that can't or won't hire E2s and not the after school programs itself. |
They can work for an afterschool, It is just easier for the company to hire an F-series visa. I find the afterschools around seoul pay pretty well.
http://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/edu/4529476016.html
That one is offering 3.2 for 6 hours a day.
http://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/edu/4562999189.html
this one is offering 2.3 + housing (or 500,000), also 6 hours/day
personally I'd take 5-6 hours at an afterschool, over 8-9 at a public school any day of the week. |
Yeah, it seems better. Prob is they make it so hard to move here with visa hassle once you're already established somewhere and that EPIK provincial 1+ pay is hard to leave. (I know a Metro area and SMOE and GEPIK pay much less incentivizing people leaving more to jump to an afterschool or hakwon.)
Though the desk warming can be a bit of a pain. Anyhew, need the higher salary as I still have big debts. (Thank you very much fallen WON 2008-2013.) I would have a hard time paying things down on a 2.0 mil salary. |
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