| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
modernseoul
Joined: 11 Sep 2011
Location: Seoul
|
 Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:57 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| wings wrote: |
| Quote: |
| I feel like their application process alone is a little too lengthy. |
Being a teacher involves a LOT of paperwork and lesson planning. Hours of it every week. If you feel that the application process for EPIK is too long you will most likely HATE teaching. |
Completely agree, it's a full time job and not a gap year experience.
The packages these days aren't as good as they were not still not bad for newbies with limited or no experience. However it's not really a long term career option either. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:34 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Usurname wrote: |
| Are you serious they make you work from 9am to 9pm? I thought it was 30 hours a week (6 houurs a day not 12hours) |
There is no set number of hours that every place follows.
Maybe ten years ago most offers were 30 hours a week with only about 15 actual teaching hours. It was an employees market. Times have changed.
In reality your schedule depends on whatever your school thinks they can get away with.
Under Korean labor law you are supposed to be limited to 40 hours a week.
But increasingly employers are choosing to interpret that however they please. 40 class-time hours? excluding breaks? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hokie21
Joined: 01 Mar 2011
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:06 am Post subject: |
|
|
I "work" 40 hours a week but I only teach for 15 hours a week....two hours of which are "clinic" which means I just review stuff with a class of 3.
Not a terrible gig. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Usurname
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Hokie21 wrote: |
I "work" 40 hours a week but I only teach for 15 hours a week....two hours of which are "clinic" which means I just review stuff with a class of 3.
Not a terrible gig. |
How much do you make?
What do you do during the other 25 hours? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hokie21
Joined: 01 Mar 2011
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Usurname wrote: |
| Hokie21 wrote: |
I "work" 40 hours a week but I only teach for 15 hours a week....two hours of which are "clinic" which means I just review stuff with a class of 3.
Not a terrible gig. |
How much do you make?
What do you do during the other 25 hours? |
2.X so nothing great...but OK.
Lesson planning....paperwork...wikipedia....read my kindle....go on lunch breaks.....
Last edited by Hokie21 on Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:13 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Usurname
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
| How much of the other 25 hours are lesson planning or paperwork? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hokie21
Joined: 01 Mar 2011
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Usurname wrote: |
| How much of the other 25 hours are lesson planning or paperwork? |
Depends on the week......I'd say around 10-12. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
GENO123
Joined: 28 Jan 2010
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Someone just starting out would have to be out of their mind to choose South Korea now. Teaching in South Korea is broken. Salaries are low and teachers are aren't treated well either. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Usurname
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:46 pm Post subject: |
|
|
[quote="GENO123"]Someone just starting out would have to be out of their mind to choose South Korea now. Teaching in South Korea is broken. Salaries are low and teachers are aren't treated well either.[/quote
Where do you suggest instead? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
GENO123
Joined: 28 Jan 2010
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
[quote="Usurname"]
| GENO123 wrote: |
Someone just starting out would have to be out of their mind to choose South Korea now. Teaching in South Korea is broken. Salaries are low and teachers are aren't treated well either.[/quote
Where do you suggest instead? |
I guess I would suggest the following thread: It gives a good description of what teaching in South Korea is about.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=233224&start=0 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Usurname
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:39 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Hokie21 wrote: |
| Usurname wrote: |
| How much of the other 25 hours are lesson planning or paperwork? |
Depends on the week......I'd say around 10-12. |
So you are working 25-27 hours making about $24 an hour?
That sounds good, what was the competition like?
Did you also get housing and how is the housing that they give you? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Usurname
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Hokie21 wrote: |
I "work" 40 hours a week but I only teach for 15 hours a week....two hours of which are "clinic" which means I just review stuff with a class of 3.
Not a terrible gig. |
Did they advertise it as 40 hour job?
Did they advertise it as 15 hours of teaching or 30 hours of teaching because I've never seen an ad for 15 hours of teaching. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
the_test
Joined: 02 Oct 2013
|
| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:59 am Post subject: |
|
|
| GENO123 wrote: |
| Someone just starting out would have to be out of their mind to choose South Korea now. Teaching in South Korea is broken. Salaries are low and teachers are aren't treated well either. |
Oh no, too late for me...! I'm going to Gangwan-do in September. Hopefully it will be bearable for a year... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
| HanlSky wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
Problem is Korean market is oversaturated. You can try China too. If you want low hours, low pay, and free time, then try for a university position. If you want high money and to work many hours, try a language academy on the coast or in a bigger city. (Large established chains prob better than some local unknown no name entity.)
But, some of these countries you already applied to pay crap wages. So, I assume money is no object to you. A rural or semi rural university in China would allow you free time to explore the culture if thats what you're looking for.
Taiwan and Vietnam pay by the hour. So, if you don't want to work many hours, those might be the places for you. |
How low is the low pay in China? Do you have any particular recommendations on which universities?
Is Vietnam even lower than China? |
Well, you'll have enough to live well in your rural area and even a bit to travel the country if you live like a Chinese. The big coastal cities are expensive and western goods are expensive. In those places you'd have to work with a good hakwon or language school that pays much more money.
Rural universities pay 5 or 6 K RMB a month and may give some flight allowance or travel allowance during the vacation. Pay is not great if you want to send money home. But will be fine if you keep costs down, cook at home sometimes, and avoid expensive foreign beers. Those areas will be less Westernized and you'll get a more authentic experience.
Vietnam pays by the hour and you may not get many hours, though rents are cheap and ls food. Neither of these ideal if you're looking to save a lot of money, pay off debts, or send money home. But, it will be enough to live locally like a King by local standards and explore the culture.
If it's loan repayment, the cities with big name language schools would be better suited for you. You will work a lot more and it will be like having a job back home and have less time for exploring. Korea is kind of like that too. But wages have been flat for a decade. Chinese large language schools are only slightly less but the living cost is much much cheaper. (Just don't go to Starbucks everyday.)
As for finding out about China, join the China forum here and join the waygook site and ask questions, read, send personal emails, and get some info. Beware of recruiters who may skin you alive. Chinese recruiters especially. Western based recruiters and maybe some large Asian recruting companies like Footprints, etc. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
