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Speck7



Joined: 05 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:05 pm    Post subject: Drifting Apart From Friends Back Home Reply with quote

I have been here since Jan. 2010. I recently went back home a few months ago and for the first time it was kind of awkward to see some of my best buddies.

Since I've moved to Korea I have gotten married, of course matured, had a baby, have a place of my own paying bills etc.

I just don't know what it is. Maybe as we get older our ideas of friendship and who we chose to associate with change. They're still doing their thing, in an American way of thinking while being in Korea has sort of made me less of an "American" in terms of wanting to get wasted, do drugs (well at least that was what was going on where I was from)....

Again, I think the biggest factor here is maturity. But maybe the time away from my best of friends have in some way damaged our relationship. Thought it would never happen, but I just don't feel that close bond anymore. Maybe if I moved back home that would all change, or maybe it wouldn't.


It's sort of sad tbh.
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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you keep in touch with them somewhat regularly?
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Speck7



Joined: 05 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I do through facebook.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if you can cite getting wasted as a specifically American pastime when Korea is the counterpoint.
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Speck7



Joined: 05 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
I'm not sure if you can cite getting wasted as a specifically American pastime when Korea is the counterpoint.

anyway, what Im saying is I think if one spends a really long time away from home, friends can drift apart.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Drifting Apart From Friends Back Home Reply with quote

Speck7 wrote:
I have been here since Jan. 2010. I recently went back home a few months ago and for the first time it was kind of awkward to see some of my best buddies.

Since I've moved to Korea I have gotten married, of course matured, had a baby, have a place of my own paying bills etc.

I just don't know what it is. Maybe as we get older our ideas of friendship and who we chose to associate with change. They're still doing their thing, in an American way of thinking while being in Korea has sort of made me less of an "American" in terms of wanting to get wasted, do drugs (well at least that was what was going on where I was from)....

Again, I think the biggest factor here is maturity. But maybe the time away from my best of friends have in some way damaged our relationship. Thought it would never happen, but I just don't feel that close bond anymore. Maybe if I moved back home that would all change, or maybe it wouldn't.


It's sort of sad tbh.


Welcome to the club. Wink It's not all hopeless, though. My friends and I have just learned to adjust our expectations. And one of my friends has remained close in spite of him having gotten married. It probably helps that he was an expat, too, but neither of us expected we'd stay in touch.

With most people, time and distance have a strong effect. Your environment affects a great deal who you are, and if you and your friends are spending your time in separate environments, then you don't really grow together. Social media can only do so much.

But some of this might have happened anyway, if you'd gotten married back home and your friends didn't, still would have caused difficulties. But consider also, that they might get married some day and make the same changes you have. So, again, not all hopeless.
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Sesame



Joined: 16 Mar 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im with the OP on this. I can personally testify that this has happened with 2 really good friends back home. It just feels forced when we meet up. They've made new close buddies, and have their things going on and I think they pretty much move on without you. Of course you move on without them, too.

Things like this happen, it's not the end of the world though. And I was really close to my one buddy, been friends for 17 years, but there's a HUGE maturity process that takes place from 25-32 (that we both went through apart away from each other on opposite sides of the world). You are teenager still at 25, think like one at least. At 32 you are more of an adult and being married with kids amplifies that.
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Chaucer



Joined: 20 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:34 pm    Post subject: Curse of the expat Reply with quote

Yep, it's the curse of the expat. Once you drift away from all (or almost all) of your friends back home (because FB and email aren't enough, and when you go back you can't go to LA, SF, NYC, DC, Miami, and Toronto to see everyone) though, the even worse thing sets in--the departure of friends here. Had one friend of ten years in the ROK leave--that was someone I hadn't know in hs or college, but someone with whom I shared a lot here. Now, I hear about life in the ME but we've drifted apart as well.
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neilio



Joined: 12 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, depends on how close. Do you drift from family? Cause a lot of my good friends I consider as close as family, and I can't see time affecting that.


It's just a matter of emotional connections.

For me at least.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on how old you are. Even locally, friends can drift apart after university, or even older friends for that matter, once work and family set in. New circles of friends emerge as a natural consequence of changing situations.

Doesn't mean that you can't keep the old friends you have, though, especially if you have covered a lot of common ground. I have buddies from HS, buddies from university, and buddies from my time in the Army, all of whom I try to keep up with if even only a few times a year. Some I get to visit regularly when I'm back for a vacation. In the mean time, I'm fortunate enough to have a tight group of expat friends here in Seoul.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neilio wrote:
Well, depends on how close. Do you drift from family? Cause a lot of my good friends I consider as close as family, and I can't see time affecting that.


It's just a matter of emotional connections.

For me at least.


If you used to live nearby your parents, you probably will drift away from your family some. I'm not as close to my sister as I was when we lived in the same town.

I used to have dinner with my sister every month. So we'd probably spend three hours together. Also she'd get to meet a girlfriend say. That sort of connection isn't happening through Skype very well.

I used to meet friends every weekend. We'd probably spend 4 or 5 hours together. We'd also meet each others girlfriends, and experience things together. Common experiences create more of a bond than different experiences; especially if they're just shown to each other on facebook.
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One year away, you could probably meet up again and never miss a beat. But after a year, you've missed so much, and your best friend probably has replaced you (and you him, here in Korea).
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Speck7



Joined: 05 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, never drifted apart from family
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on whether they were real friends or just drinking buddies. There are plenty I keep in regular contact with via facebook. A few guys I worked with for a couple of years and then re connected via facebook after I got over here. Facebook got big shortly after I got over here. I think in the west folsk joined facebook in droves in 2007 while koreans joined in droves in 2010. Anyways, lots of us keep in contact and crack jokes via each other pages all the time. Others you fall out of touch with because asides from boozing, you never had much in common anyhow. The guys I'm closest too we clicked with our humor or other things. I have one friend who has almost joined the ranks of the elite in my old hometown starting a small business and all of a suddetn rolling in the dough the last couple of years. We'd prob fall out of touch and be guilty of ending up in different circles if we hadn't of clicked when we were younger and shared a similiar warped sense of humor. But, that's one of the few cases of us being in different circles and still hanging out. Lots of others, we would deliberately fall out of touch and not have much in common anymore. Usually we were bound together by getting drunk and hitting on chicks. Nothing to really bind us.

Admittedly, some of my friends have gone on to great success (way more than I thought when I first met them). Some other friends haven't amounted to much and seem to be financial losers, though are great guys. (The economy does suck bad where I'm from so that's partly to blame.)
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as an example, me and a buddy that I worked with back in 2002 when we were both young turks were cracking jokes on some facebook goof site this past weekend. ha ha.
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've been in Korea for over 4 years and wonder why you and your friends have drifted apart?

You're no longer part of the group. You decided to move to the other side of the world. They have other friends they hang out with on a regular basis. Basically they've forgotten about you.

When we are over here in Korea a lot of us think about the life we left behind in Korea...the food, our cars, our family, our friends.

Our friends still have 99% of their friends.....most of them aren't thinking about the 1% who left.
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