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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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A: Oh, I hate that song! It's irritating.
B: You should quit listening to music.
A: I don't hate ALL music, just this song!
B: Well, you shouldn't complain. I'm sure it's not such a bad song.
A: Really? Have you ever really listened to the song?
B: No, but I've heard some other songs, so it can't be that bad.
(1 year later:
B: You were right! That song really does suck! It's driving me mad!) |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
| Say what, now? Stu hasn't even been to Korea? He doesn't live here? Yet he's telling us how we should feel about the place? What a complete idiot. He's not even a green newbie yet and he's lecturing us veterans about adjusting to Korean society. Ignore this fool. |
Who invited you to the vets' table noob?
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I have zero interest in participating in the thread topic, but when I see comments like this from you, it makes me curious if folks like bluelake who have been here for quite an extraordinary amount of time view people like you who have been here appreciably long, but not quite as long as they have, with similar - faux or legitimate, you could be cleverly trolling posters who write off people with very little time in country like Smithington did - "noobish" contempt?
I'm not really trying to be caustic, really I'm not. It just seems like 15 years is equally as arbitrary as 10 years, or 5 years, or 2 years or 1 year. I know people who have been here less time than me who have far more ingrained ties to society here than myself, and I also know people who have been here longer, who haven't made significant strides in that regard.
However, I think we can all agree that someone who has yet to arrive in the country may very well be able to provide an insightful point of view, but certainly not any insight itself. |
I was rushed what I should have said was, Who invited you to the vets' table noob? Bluelake hasn't even asked me to the table yet.
After 23 years and having forgotten more than some will ever learn the thing that I still enjoy is that I'm still learning. Anybody that says they understand Korea or have it figured out are full of it.
To the point of 'Leave if you don't like it', I've never been keen on the sentiment. Everyone has good days and bad. Everyone has a day they ask themselves "what the hell am I doing here?" Everyone is bothered by some aspect of Korea from time to time. That being said, the chronic complainer that comes on Dave's year after year after year bemoaning how uncivilized and uncultured they are...well maybe it's time to change scenery.
Maybe it's an internet thing, I'm old and old school. Back in the day sitting around a table of empty bottles if someone went on a rant about how Koreans are all this or all that, we'd tell him "Dude you need to get the hell out of here." That would elicit one of two responses. One, "You're right! I'm ef'n outta here." and in a few weeks they'd bee off to different pastures. Or two, "Nah, it's cool. I like it here but man sometimes it just gets to me. I guess I just needed to vent. Thanks for listening. How do you deal with it?"
Now on the internet there seems to be a third response. I think a lot is lost due to the medium and like I said I chalk the occasional comment up to that. The perpetual negativity, again over years and years by some posters however makes me wonder if it isn't time to just leave. It's not that hard to do. People leave everyday.
What was the original topic / vent about? A guy that's been here ten years and has his panties in a wad about something and chose to whine about how Korean sounds? "Dude you need a break from this place. Let me but you another beer."
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yodanole
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Well, if you like it here ....... stay ....... 
I suppose that "venting" and "whining" could be confused ...... and this forum exists ( in some small part ) for the former, and a little too much for the latter ....
How do you tell the difference? You can't always but I fancy that I perceive anger, frustration and angst in the former and a simple case of spoiled childness and prejudice when I think I'm seeing the latter.
Ultimately, life is just what happens while you are making other plans. I try to take it one day at a time .... |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| life is just what happens while you are making other plans. |
Now, now...pay homage to the man who said that. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| You both make good points so I believe both of you. |
It doesn't bother me when my Korean friends do all these behaviours, because i know they're not being hostile.
Its only when strangers do them.
When some ajumma with a face like death and a voice like a horse impaled on a railing nudges me in the back, then i feel like knocking her teeth in. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Chaparrastique wrote: |
| Stain wrote: |
| You both make good points so I believe both of you. |
Its only when strangers do them.
When some ajumma with a face like death and a voice like a horse impaled on a railing nudges me in the back, then i feel like knocking her teeth in. |
Sorry, but I can't help but laugh and wonder what an ajumma with a face like death and a voice like a horse who is not a stranger to you and what may be going on with a nudge in the back... |
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yodanole
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Quite right, that would be John Lennon ....
And also still quite true ....
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| life is just what happens while you are making other plans. |
Now, now...pay homage to the man who said that. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Mix1 wrote: |
A: Oh, I hate that song! It's irritating.
B: You should quit listening to music.
A: I don't hate ALL music, just this song!
B: Well, you shouldn't complain. I'm sure it's not such a bad song.
A: Really? Have you ever really listened to the song?
B: No, but I've heard some other songs, so it can't be that bad.
(1 year later:
B: You were right! That song really does suck! It's driving me mad!) |
LOL |
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