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Good Will Riker

Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Location: South Korea

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:07 pm Post subject:

bossface wrote:

Sesame wrote:

"She has 8 Native English instructors teaching 60 students at a prestigious academy (raking in the dough through the rich folks.)."

Did anyone else catch this? Uhh, if she truly does have 8 NETs on board she definitely IS not raking in the dough. She is in the RED.

A little math here would be applicable.

If each NET is getting paid 2.2 and you 2.5 that is 20.1 million in overhead ALONE. You said there's 60 students, that means she would have to be charging then 335,000k won a month in tuition (lol that's not happening) JUST TO COVER THE TEACHERS SALARIES.

Either you misheard your recruiter or that boss when they mentioned the amount of students at the school, or, and most likely, they're lying.

Yeah I caught that too. Plus, there aren't a lot of rich folks living in Jeollanamdo. This school would realistically have to charge 500 k a month to be in the black (and not in the red). Anyone who can afford 6 grand a year for little Minsu's English education likely moved to Seoul a long time ago.

It's not Jeollanam-do (I kept the actual province a secret, but we all know "it is not located in Gyeonggi-do."), and I will be considered the 8th Native English instructor working over there (7, 8, 9 for 60 students? Same difference...).

All the same, I am going to keep my eyes and ears open, and lookout for greater opportunities out there while working at this place.

How they have no official website will only speak wonders as to how the actual place is really like (even if they have "fancy dressings covered behind a lot of debt.") when I get there. ~

PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:12 pm Post subject:

OP, do you have your F-series visa? You won't need to worry about the terms of employment being enforced if you do. If they screw you over, quit. Period. Walk. With that visa, you don't need a letter of release and you don't have to depend on them for sponsorship. Not trying to over shoot the topic, but this is also a clear cut reason why so many long term 'old timers' on the board are so much in favour of upgrading one's credentials if one is looking to teach ESL here long term.

Good Will Riker

Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Location: South Korea

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:33 pm Post subject:

PRagic wrote:

OP, do you have your F-series visa? You won't need to worry about the terms of employment being enforced if you do. If they screw you over, quit. Period. Walk. With that visa, you don't need a letter of release and you don't have to depend on them for sponsorship.

Not trying to over shoot the topic, but this is also a clear cut reason why so many long term 'old timers' on the board are so much in favour of upgrading one's credentials if one is looking to teach ESL here long term.

Thank you. ~

Now, I would like to have this question answered: Smile

Question: Can the FBI CBC + apostille diploma be transferable from "one province to another province" (i.e. Gyeonggi-do to Jellonamdo, and vice-versa.) after completing one teaching job and moving onto a newer one, or do I need to repeat this process all over again?

Would I have to re-submit them again when I start working at another hagwon or adult Business English academy when I am done with this one. Whether I decide to move on from here before or when the 12 month contract is up?

If I stayed in Korea the entire 12-months without leaving the country under this FBI CBC + apostille diploma, could I just re-use this to transfer to another school without going through the entire finger printing, ordering docs, contacting the US federal government process through the internet all over again?

Kepler

Joined: 24 Sep 2007

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:46 am Post subject:

Good Will Riker wrote:

If I stayed in Korea the entire 12-months without leaving the country under this FBI CBC + apostille diploma, could I just re-use this to transfer to another school without going through the entire finger printing, ordering docs, contacting the US federal government process through the internet all over again?

Teachers submit their apostilled FBI CBC to immigration to get an E-2 visa. If the Office of Education wants a copy of their CBC then they can go to immigration and have a copy made. Immigration keeps the original. I think the policy is that you don't need new documents if you're out of the country for less than 90 days.

seoulsurvivor8

Joined: 25 Aug 2011

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:53 pm Post subject:

Kepler wrote:

Good Will Riker wrote:

The YBM recruiter, a fairly knowledgeable guy IMO, also quoted the 90 day thing to me multiple times in my conversations with him about visa renewal.

Good Will Riker

Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Location: South Korea

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:53 pm Post subject:

seoulsurvivor8 wrote:

Kepler wrote:

Good Will Riker wrote:

The YBM recruiter, a fairly knowledgeable guy IMO, also quoted the 90 day thing to me multiple times in my conversations with him about visa renewal.

In regards to this point, they have at least come to their senses. Smile

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