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greatunknown
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
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| Stain wrote: |
| TheMeerkatLover wrote: |
You've tried to minimize the negative factors while trying to play up the benefits of being non-confrontational AFTER the fact.
I will put this very simply for you (Captain Corea had it right).
You and your family were in a very potentially dangerous situation. A stranger in your room alone at night standing over you.
This is an extremely unnerving situation and any individual who is capable and willing to protect his family would have dropped him first (consequences be damned...your first duty is to your family)!
Not only did you not drop the guy, you let him walk out. Even worse, you OPENED the door again to him.
Legally, you probably did the smartest thing. As the primary protector of your family, when the risks are very high and immediate action should be followed, you failed. You failed at protecting your family and you are quite simply a coward.
You are not a beta male, you are an Delta-male at best.
Don't expect your wife to forget this. Women instinctually look for protection from their husbands in extreme moments of danger and stress. You didn't provide that. You took the path of the weak and has tried to justify it by using laws and realities after the fact.
Now that she knows what you are REALLY like in a crisis, I would be extremely surprised is this is not the real seed that will eventually lead to your separation/divorce as she reflects on this over time. |
It depends on how much money he makes as to whether his wife will forget this or not. Because, let's face it, that is requirement No.1. |
Thats totally what I was afraid of. Thanks for your brutal honesty.
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| greatunknown wrote: |
| Stain wrote: |
| TheMeerkatLover wrote: |
You've tried to minimize the negative factors while trying to play up the benefits of being non-confrontational AFTER the fact.
I will put this very simply for you (Captain Corea had it right).
You and your family were in a very potentially dangerous situation. A stranger in your room alone at night standing over you.
This is an extremely unnerving situation and any individual who is capable and willing to protect his family would have dropped him first (consequences be damned...your first duty is to your family)!
Not only did you not drop the guy, you let him walk out. Even worse, you OPENED the door again to him.
Legally, you probably did the smartest thing. As the primary protector of your family, when the risks are very high and immediate action should be followed, you failed. You failed at protecting your family and you are quite simply a coward.
You are not a beta male, you are an Delta-male at best.
Don't expect your wife to forget this. Women instinctually look for protection from their husbands in extreme moments of danger and stress. You didn't provide that. You took the path of the weak and has tried to justify it by using laws and realities after the fact.
Now that she knows what you are REALLY like in a crisis, I would be extremely surprised is this is not the real seed that will eventually lead to your separation/divorce as she reflects on this over time. |
It depends on how much money he makes as to whether his wife will forget this or not. Because, let's face it, that is requirement No.1. |
Thats totally what I was afraid of. Thanks for your brutal honesty.
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What the hell are you agreeing with them for? You subdued the guy! You did protect your wife. Even the posters who think you should have held him for the cops acknowledge that. How does that make you a coward? |
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Stain
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| greatunknown wrote: |
| Stain wrote: |
| TheMeerkatLover wrote: |
You've tried to minimize the negative factors while trying to play up the benefits of being non-confrontational AFTER the fact.
I will put this very simply for you (Captain Corea had it right).
You and your family were in a very potentially dangerous situation. A stranger in your room alone at night standing over you.
This is an extremely unnerving situation and any individual who is capable and willing to protect his family would have dropped him first (consequences be damned...your first duty is to your family)!
Not only did you not drop the guy, you let him walk out. Even worse, you OPENED the door again to him.
Legally, you probably did the smartest thing. As the primary protector of your family, when the risks are very high and immediate action should be followed, you failed. You failed at protecting your family and you are quite simply a coward.
You are not a beta male, you are an Delta-male at best.
Don't expect your wife to forget this. Women instinctually look for protection from their husbands in extreme moments of danger and stress. You didn't provide that. You took the path of the weak and has tried to justify it by using laws and realities after the fact.
Now that she knows what you are REALLY like in a crisis, I would be extremely surprised is this is not the real seed that will eventually lead to your separation/divorce as she reflects on this over time. |
It depends on how much money he makes as to whether his wife will forget this or not. Because, let's face it, that is requirement No.1. |
Thats totally what I was afraid of. Thanks for your brutal honesty.
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What the hell are you agreeing with them for? You subdued the guy! You did protect your wife. Even the posters who think you should have held him for the cops acknowledge that. How does that make you a coward? |
It's true. You did subdue the guy and kept him away from your wife. I think the others here are wondering more why you didn't totally fly off the handle and dismember him as they would have done. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
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hahaha, yeah, that part stood out to me. A man can break into your house, with a weapon, and you cannot "initiate violence" or be more violent" - that'd mean you'd have to let him start hacking.
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Well I'm not the one who wrote the laws for this country...take it up with the cops.
Oh and by the way...if the guy has a weapon you are legally justified in using a similar one as well. That's where the "equal force" comes into play.
As for the "initate violence" statement. It certainly doesn't mean you have to stand there and wait for him to stab or hit you. For all we know it could be enough to have the guy move towards you in a threatening manner while swinging the knife/club/golf iron...that sounds much more sensible then thinking it means you have to stand there while he attacks you.
And in any case I was merely refuting another poster's claim that you can't (legally) defend yourself in South Korea. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Stain wrote: |
| Sector7G wrote: |
| greatunknown wrote: |
| Stain wrote: |
| TheMeerkatLover wrote: |
You've tried to minimize the negative factors while trying to play up the benefits of being non-confrontational AFTER the fact.
I will put this very simply for you (Captain Corea had it right).
You and your family were in a very potentially dangerous situation. A stranger in your room alone at night standing over you.
This is an extremely unnerving situation and any individual who is capable and willing to protect his family would have dropped him first (consequences be damned...your first duty is to your family)!
Not only did you not drop the guy, you let him walk out. Even worse, you OPENED the door again to him.
Legally, you probably did the smartest thing. As the primary protector of your family, when the risks are very high and immediate action should be followed, you failed. You failed at protecting your family and you are quite simply a coward.
You are not a beta male, you are an Delta-male at best.
Don't expect your wife to forget this. Women instinctually look for protection from their husbands in extreme moments of danger and stress. You didn't provide that. You took the path of the weak and has tried to justify it by using laws and realities after the fact.
Now that she knows what you are REALLY like in a crisis, I would be extremely surprised is this is not the real seed that will eventually lead to your separation/divorce as she reflects on this over time. |
It depends on how much money he makes as to whether his wife will forget this or not. Because, let's face it, that is requirement No.1. |
Thats totally what I was afraid of. Thanks for your brutal honesty.
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What the hell are you agreeing with them for? You subdued the guy! You did protect your wife. Even the posters who think you should have held him for the cops acknowledge that. How does that make you a coward? |
It's true. You did subdue the guy and kept him away from your wife. I think the others here are wondering more why you didn't totally fly off the handle and dismember him as they would have done. |
Whoa... that's going a little too far. I'm thinking beat him enough so you can see bubbles of blood out of his nose, to indicate the guy is still alive.
Seriously, the OP did a fine job (I assume). If you're wife were to divorce you, this wouldn't be the reason. Actually, maybe a shove, or two probably wouldn't have been out of the question. Depending on how he reacts to the initial 'test' shove. |
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greatunknown
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| greatunknown wrote: |
| Stain wrote: |
| TheMeerkatLover wrote: |
You've tried to minimize the negative factors while trying to play up the benefits of being non-confrontational AFTER the fact.
I will put this very simply for you (Captain Corea had it right).
You and your family were in a very potentially dangerous situation. A stranger in your room alone at night standing over you.
This is an extremely unnerving situation and any individual who is capable and willing to protect his family would have dropped him first (consequences be damned...your first duty is to your family)!
Not only did you not drop the guy, you let him walk out. Even worse, you OPENED the door again to him.
Legally, you probably did the smartest thing. As the primary protector of your family, when the risks are very high and immediate action should be followed, you failed. You failed at protecting your family and you are quite simply a coward.
You are not a beta male, you are an Delta-male at best.
Don't expect your wife to forget this. Women instinctually look for protection from their husbands in extreme moments of danger and stress. You didn't provide that. You took the path of the weak and has tried to justify it by using laws and realities after the fact.
Now that she knows what you are REALLY like in a crisis, I would be extremely surprised is this is not the real seed that will eventually lead to your separation/divorce as she reflects on this over time. |
It depends on how much money he makes as to whether his wife will forget this or not. Because, let's face it, that is requirement No.1. |
Thats totally what I was afraid of. Thanks for your brutal honesty.
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What the hell are you agreeing with them for? You subdued the guy! You did protect your wife. Even the posters who think you should have held him for the cops acknowledge that. How does that make you a coward? |
Oh don't worry I don't agree with him at all. My response was meant to be tongue in cheek. He is obviously just trying get a rise out of me. I'm not trying to get into an internet argument with anyone. |
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jazzmaster
Joined: 30 Sep 2013
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| Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:55 am Post subject: |
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| TheMeerkatLover wrote: |
You've tried to minimize the negative factors while trying to play up the benefits of being non-confrontational AFTER the fact.
I will put this very simply for you (Captain Corea had it right).
You and your family were in a very potentially dangerous situation. A stranger in your room alone at night standing over you.
This is an extremely unnerving situation and any individual who is capable and willing to protect his family would have dropped him first (consequences be damned...your first duty is to your family)!
Not only did you not drop the guy, you let him walk out. Even worse, you OPENED the door again to him.
Legally, you probably did the smartest thing. As the primary protector of your family, when the risks are very high and immediate action should be followed, you failed. You failed at protecting your family and you are quite simply a coward.
You are not a beta male, you are an Delta-male at best.
Don't expect your wife to forget this. Women instinctually look for protection from their husbands in extreme moments of danger and stress. You didn't provide that. You took the path of the weak and has tried to justify it by using laws and realities after the fact.
Now that she knows what you are REALLY like in a crisis, I would be extremely surprised is this is not the real seed that will eventually lead to your separation/divorce as she reflects on this over time. |
He's 110% correct. The same situation happened to me but i beat the guy up. Then i dismembered him, and feasted on his heart to assume his power.
After that my woman couldn't get enough of me. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:05 am Post subject: I think you were restrained given the situation |
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| Most people (including myself) would be tempted to deck the guy. That would have just landed you in trouble with the Korean law. |
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Stain
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:30 am Post subject: Re: I think you were restrained given the situation |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Most people (including myself) would be tempted to deck the guy. That would have just landed you in trouble with the Korean law. |
Yeah, but dismemberment is kinda money, don't ya think? |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| greatunknown wrote: |
| Stain wrote: |
| TheMeerkatLover wrote: |
You've tried to minimize the negative factors while trying to play up the benefits of being non-confrontational AFTER the fact.
I will put this very simply for you (Captain Corea had it right).
You and your family were in a very potentially dangerous situation. A stranger in your room alone at night standing over you.
This is an extremely unnerving situation and any individual who is capable and willing to protect his family would have dropped him first (consequences be damned...your first duty is to your family)!
Not only did you not drop the guy, you let him walk out. Even worse, you OPENED the door again to him.
Legally, you probably did the smartest thing. As the primary protector of your family, when the risks are very high and immediate action should be followed, you failed. You failed at protecting your family and you are quite simply a coward.
You are not a beta male, you are an Delta-male at best.
Don't expect your wife to forget this. Women instinctually look for protection from their husbands in extreme moments of danger and stress. You didn't provide that. You took the path of the weak and has tried to justify it by using laws and realities after the fact.
Now that she knows what you are REALLY like in a crisis, I would be extremely surprised is this is not the real seed that will eventually lead to your separation/divorce as she reflects on this over time. |
It depends on how much money he makes as to whether his wife will forget this or not. Because, let's face it, that is requirement No.1. |
Thats totally what I was afraid of. Thanks for your brutal honesty.
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What the hell are you agreeing with them for? You subdued the guy! You did protect your wife. Even the posters who think you should have held him for the cops acknowledge that. How does that make you a coward? |
Exactly. this is Korea for pitys sakes, not San Pedro Sula.
At worst any intruder is likely to be a 7-stone drunk old ajosshi fart with the martial arts abilities of a duck on ice.
Melodramatic Korean women will scream 20 decibels at anything from a mosquito to a passing pigeon. That does not mean she thinks you failed to protect her.
| Milwaukeedave wrote: |
| Most people (including myself) would be tempted to deck the guy. That would have just landed you in trouble with the Korean law. |
Unfortunately any erstwhile alpha-male in Korea has to temper his machismo with the likelihood of being utterly shafted by the Korean Police for any altercation with a korean male.
A lot of Korean females don't believe or understand that K-cops are biased against foreign males here though, and will wonder why you didn't go ballistic. |
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Lumberjack
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:49 am Post subject: |
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..a bunch of English teachers discussing how it is to be an "alpha male".
Facepalm.
OP, you did everything perfectly. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Not to join the whole "alpha" thing, but wouldn't a true alpha not even have to stand up, but just tell the guy to get the *beep* out, and take the trash with him, and go grab him a 6pack of beer and a sandwich from the CU, and have the guy coming back to him banging his girlfriend right in front of the guy and telling the dude as he drops off the groceries that him and his friends need to make sure to have breakfast ready for him at 8 in the morning? |
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maitaidads
Joined: 08 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| Not to join the whole "alpha" thing, but wouldn't a true alpha not even have to stand up, but just tell the guy to get the *beep* out, and take the trash with him, and go grab him a 6pack of beer and a sandwich from the CU, and have the guy coming back to him banging his girlfriend right in front of the guy and telling the dude as he drops off the groceries that him and his friends need to make sure to have breakfast ready for him at 8 in the morning? |
Very butch! Super masculine fantasy involving male servants and the feeding of groceries. Cleopatra is back in town ! |
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