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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Finally took the "Study Room" Plunge |
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FDNY wrote: |
Dude, I know that. The second part was whimsical/theoretical. With 200 students my wife would be inhaling Xanax and Cass all day long just to stay focused. I would be having my friends ship over some pretty much get down meth so I would have the power to keep going.
What edwardcatshit and Adonginmay don't seem to realize is that I don't take care of the day to day operations of this business. I dictate broad pedagogical policies, directions and trends we should be following. I don't dirty myself going to banks, government offices and what not. I will occasionally thrill a mother or two to seal a deal. That’s it. Where the money comes from, where it goes and what it does is of no concern to me. My biggest concern right now is if my Hoyo de Monterrey - Epicure Especial cigars make it to my new address. |
That's all irrelevant to calling you out as a hypocrite and a troll. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Good luck to you OP. Just go into this with your eyes wide open. And be prepared for some strain on your marriage working together in an apartment all day every day. A good friend of mine did what you're doing two years ago. He's now divorced. He's moved out and his ex-wife is running the place by herself. Be sure to give yourself some 'my time' apart from your wife. And you'll need to deal with bringing not only your work but "Korea"into your home. I could never do that. My home is where I go to block out Korea.
Anyway, best of luck to you. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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While taxes in Korea are lower than in the west, the system here does seem designed to keep you from being too successful. The bureacracy here does seem to want to keep small businesses small. That's why Koreans often do things "off the books" or "under the table." Quite a few businesses back home do the same, though taxes are much higher. Rules are not as restrictive as here, though.
I can't imagine the government back home telling you how many customers you can serve or walking into sylvan learning centers telling them how many students they can have or what price they can charge. There is a lot of bureacracy and taxes back home which is why the economy is bad. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Wrong according to your definition of what is right and wrong? Is downloading a movie wrong? Is sharing your dvd with a friend wrong? Is having everyone come over for a party and showing a movie to them wrong? All of those things are "wrong" according to the law. To clarify, a movie is for personal viewing only according to copyright law. When a law is set up to negatively impact a person, then the law is no good and I wouldn't feel bad for breaking. Therefore, I wouldn't need to make any justification to make myself feel better about it. |
Copyright law is a completely separate issue and has nothing to do with paying your taxes. Start a thread on it if you want to debate its moral implications.
Tax evasion is a serious crime usually resulting in imprisonment. It goes without saying that a democracy wouldn't survive if individual citizens were allowed to decide if they wanted to give some of their money to the government or not. Most responsible adults accept this and cough up.
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I read an article a while back about the difference between rich people and poor people. The difference was, rich people tend to find a way out of paying debt, while poor people felt a moral obligation to pay debt back in full. I'm not saying that you shouldn't pay back a debt, but I feel people have fallen victim to believing that it is a moral obligation to pay no matter the circumstances |
There are good and bad people in all walks of life. Plenty of poor people don't feel a moral obligation to pay their debts. |
Most responsible governments don't make people pay more than they can afford. Also, it's not just on persons, but also rules and regulations that companies must comply with. Where do those costs get passed onto? Who pays for it? All of us as consumers?
Taxes and some rules are definately necessary. None of us want PCB's in our drinking water. We do need police, schools, etc. The question becomes what is too much to pay? I'm not talking about the rich, but the poor and middle class that get hit with fees and costs all the time. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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To the OP, if you're still reading: What are the regulations like for this kind of thing? Are they difficult to adhere to? If they're dumb regulations and nearly impossible to adhere to, are they easy to ignore? I'm thinking of things like when you're allowed to operate, how many students are allowed per class, lighting in the hallways, etc.
I used to work in restaurants (in Canada), and while some of the health & safety regulations were what any responsible restaurant should do anyway, others were absurd. |
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FDNY
Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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cdninkorea wrote: |
To the OP, if you're still reading: What are the regulations like for this kind of thing? Are they difficult to adhere to? If they're dumb regulations and nearly impossible to adhere to, are they easy to ignore? I'm thinking of things like when you're allowed to operate, how many students are allowed per class, lighting in the hallways, etc.
I used to work in restaurants (in Canada), and while some of the health & safety regulations were what any responsible restaurant should do anyway, others were absurd. |
It depends on your local education office. Ours was totally casual and helpful about the whole thing. I know of three rules: 1/ The owner has to have a degree. 2/ A maximum of 9 students per class. 3/ Eventually I should get a CBC. But again, they said no rush, whenever. |
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chickenpie
Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'll be going down this road in the next year or two.
FDNY could you give a quick overview of the things you got ready for your home?
Which things where the most challenging to get ready?
Thank you for your time. |
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FDNY
Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm, well there are several things you should consider:
-you will need a classroom
-another room where students wait or socialize
-a curriculum (printed on glossy paper that is coherent and impressive)
-an advertising plan
-a license from the education office
-display your degree, grad photos, certificates in an easily noticeable place
-books
-whiteboard
-table
-chairs
-receipts for the parents affixed to envelopes for payment
-a wife/husband that is adept at dealing with Korean mothers
-flexibility
-You also need to make your study room as safe as possible
(for example: screwing shut screens on windows, rendering doors
so that they can't be slammed shut by wind or unruly students,
prominently displaying fire extinguishers and first aid equipment)
-events such as halloween, Christmas parties
-remembering students birthdays and buying a cake
-regular and in depth student assessments
-offering things that the regular hagwons don't offer
(for example: public speaking (which we digitally record and give to
the parents), vocabulary work, special classes for gifted students
Basically the hagwon business in Korea is maturing and the parents
have actually gone to hagwons themselves. Therefore they will know
if it is crap ASAP. However, if you offer a well thought out program
and teach in a professional manner the parents will actually be your
best sort of advertising. Word of mouth is paramount, especially in
a relatively closed system like an apartment complex.
You should probably also know the place you are going to do business.
Don't open up shop in a place that already has several study rooms.
One last word. I wouldn't go into this unless you have pretty extensive
experience. |
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