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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| jdog2050 wrote: |
| Sigh...ya know the worst part about shit like this is that I could understand if Korea had a very fragile "Hemp Protein Powder" industry...but it doesn't. Nothing on iHerb is a threat to Korean agriculture or trade. So fucking pointless. |
Do you have any evidence at all that it has anything to do with that? |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
| jdog2050 wrote: |
| Sigh...ya know the worst part about shit like this is that I could understand if Korea had a very fragile "Hemp Protein Powder" industry...but it doesn't. Nothing on iHerb is a threat to Korean agriculture or trade. So fucking pointless. |
Do you have any evidence at all that it has anything to do with that? |
Do you have any evidence that it doesn't? Your hacker prevention story seems a bit farfetched.
Customs has a reputation for holding up foreign goods. They give their officers bonuses based on that.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, chances are it's a duck.  |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| So, is there anything good about this?? Like, we have to get a number, but can we now get more than 150$ at a time or something?? |
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spaceman82
Joined: 01 Dec 2009
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:34 am Post subject: |
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What are you talking about? This is a personal assault on foreigners because korea is a third world protectionist country trying to protect their budding paper clip industry. It has absolutely nothing at all with the government trying to protect individual's personal information. |
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Jake_Kim
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:58 am Post subject: |
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Korean government as always pretends to care about personal information security, and this Individual Customs Clearance ID Number is a part of banning the collection and usage of one's national ID number between private parties. (Customs clearance paperwork for individual customers are actually carried out by your agents/carriers, thus non-governmental parties if you think of the process)
The fact on the ground is that those Korean national IDs have been leaked out of corporate DBs, over the last decade or so, some tens of thousands here, millions there, to the point that it is rumored that almost fully reconstructed Korean national registry is in circulation in the black market as well as in China or SE Asia.
Political pressures mounted especially after big leaks from major banks and credit card companies in recent years, but the gov. never wanted to overhaul National ID system itself, thus they come up with these compartmentalized purpose-specific additional layer of ID numbers for everyone. It's more like a band-aid over a malignant tumor, but that's the gov.'s way of saying 'We've done 'something' about the problem.'
You have to have some command of Korean, (the usual) digital certificate, and an older version of IE to get this done. Likely IE10 or lower in order to allow 4 different ActiveX plug-ins. Then, unsurprisingly, you'll get that 'would you allow such and such controls to run on your computer' warning bar on IE, accepting of which prompts refreshing the page a few times before you get it working.
If you make it to the online application form page, it'll be the address line that will trip you off. Being yet another government system, one has to put in the new, street-based address from a pop-up window, but its search function could be frustrating.
The rest of the form is easy, phone numbers and an e-mail address. Keep the tick boxes checked, hit the register button, then you get your Customs ID. |
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Epuhnee
Joined: 22 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Can someone please help me with how I can get this digital certificate and password? I don't think I have one and I've tried google but I'm not very computer savvy so I'm kinda lost.. |
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Jake_Kim
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Epuhnee wrote: |
| Can someone please help me with how I can get this digital certificate and password? I don't think I have one and I've tried google but I'm not very computer savvy so I'm kinda lost.. |
The 'digital certificate' refers to the security measure you sign up for when you opt in for online banking with any Korean bank.
Actually, there exist 'General-purpose' certificate and 'Limited-purpose' certificate in parallel, the former costs some 4400 Won per annum and the latter for free. You get to decide which one to get issued upon initial registration with your bank.
As for this Customs business, 'Limited-purpose certificate' is also accepted. For some other non-banking online user authentication procedures out there, however, only the 'General-purpose certificate' is accepted. |
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Epuhnee
Joined: 22 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Epuhnee wrote: |
| Can someone please help me with how I can get this digital certificate and password? I don't think I have one and I've tried google but I'm not very computer savvy so I'm kinda lost.. |
The 'digital certificate' refers to the security measure you sign up for when you opt in for online banking with any Korean bank.
Actually, there exist 'General-purpose' certificate and 'Limited-purpose' certificate in parallel, the former costs some 4400 Won per annum and the latter for free. You get to decide which one to get issued upon initial registration with your bank.
As for this Customs business, 'Limited-purpose certificate' is also accepted. For some other non-banking online user authentication procedures out there, however, only the 'General-purpose certificate' is accepted. |
Ok, thank you. |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Home sweet home
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Is this ONLY for iherb? Or anything that's ordered from overseas? I ordered things off amazon and ebay and they're not asking for this. |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Jake_Kim wrote: |
Korean government as always pretends to care about personal information security, and this Individual Customs Clearance ID Number is a part of banning the collection and usage of one's national ID number between private parties. (Customs clearance paperwork for individual customers are actually carried out by your agents/carriers, thus non-governmental parties if you think of the process)
The fact on the ground is that those Korean national IDs have been leaked out of corporate DBs, over the last decade or so, some tens of thousands here, millions there, to the point that it is rumored that almost fully reconstructed Korean national registry is in circulation in the black market as well as in China or SE Asia.
Political pressures mounted especially after big leaks from major banks and credit card companies in recent years, but the gov. never wanted to overhaul National ID system itself, thus they come up with these compartmentalized purpose-specific additional layer of ID numbers for everyone. It's more like a band-aid over a malignant tumor, but that's the gov.'s way of saying 'We've done 'something' about the problem.'
You have to have some command of Korean, (the usual) digital certificate, and an older version of IE to get this done. Likely IE10 or lower in order to allow 4 different ActiveX plug-ins. Then, unsurprisingly, you'll get that 'would you allow such and such controls to run on your computer' warning bar on IE, accepting of which prompts refreshing the page a few times before you get it working.
If you make it to the online application form page, it'll be the address line that will trip you off. Being yet another government system, one has to put in the new, street-based address from a pop-up window, but its search function could be frustrating.
The rest of the form is easy, phone numbers and an e-mail address. Keep the tick boxes checked, hit the register button, then you get your Customs ID. |
Thanks for the run through Jake.
I always laugh when my wife tries to order from Korean websites but replies, "I can't do it because you have English Windows".
The band aids will continue until there is some drastic overhaul of the entire computing infrastructure and I can't see that happening soon.
The Korean internet: doing everything fast as slowly as humanly possible. |
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