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duhweecher
Joined: 06 Nov 2013
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 Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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While the Japanese garrison was established outside Seoul proper at the time (1906), Yongsanbang was established as an administrative district in 1896. The name Yongsan in reference to that area dates back to Baekje.
I don't know what the Japanese called the garrison.
Upon taking control of the facilities in September of 1945 the U.S. Army named it Camp Seobinggo. That name stuck until 1952 when the name was changed to Yongsan.
As to the OP's question about the wiki article, I've two theories. One, it's Wikipedia and is an error. Two it's referring to the activation date of the current command after the force restructuring that took place about that time.
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Awesome answer...thanks T-J! Just for clarification, does this mean that the US Army base was there prior, during (circa 1952), and after the Korean War? |
Here's one of the best historical map of Seoul at the end of WWII that I've found. It shows the base as it was at the time of transfer from Japanese to American control.
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ams/korea_city_plans/txu-oclc-6618626.jpg |
Thanks. That is interesting. I watched an old documentary about the Korean War that made it seem as though everything was moving everywhere. However, few history books seems to interpret things as such.
I guess, I'm genuinely interested in this static linear evolution of historical space (or convenient disregard for historical fact leading to the production of historical "memory") such as the Yongsan Garrison. I mean what exactly happened to this base during the war? There's no way that it just stayed there during the war, did it? To be honest, I have no clue.
I haven't found any books written specifically about Yongsan, but I'm a bit confused at how the historical interpretation of it can be seen as something that is historically static in terms of space/ place--even going as far back as the mid-Chosun Dynasty.
I probably need to read more Korean-written history books, but you've been greatly helpful. |
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kimchi_pizza
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:04 am Post subject: |
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My previous post may've been a bit hasty and based on assumption. To
make amends I would like to add a little bit more to further interest...
T-J:
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| While the Japanese garrison was established outside Seoul proper at the time (1906).... |
Make connections or friends and visit Korea Military Academy. Their museum
has Japanese heavy weapons on display in the open on the ground level.
They were uncovered during renovations in the last decade or so that were hastily
buried by Japanese occupational forces at the end of WW2. Was IT the site
of that Japanese garrison? I believe so. And the irony? A statue of U.S.
general Ridgway sits firmly on top since, as I understand it, he helped establish
the Academy. Get introductions and visit it. You may even see a unique piece
added to the museum by some foreigner.
But to share a story (yes...story time! haha). I was given a kindly tour of
the museum by it's director and he explained to me the history of the academy
very briefly. To end our tour, there is a, I dunno, 20 story tower
from which to view the fields and campus. BUT it was a tower as old as
the academy itself with only this rickety elevator to reach the top that fits
two people comfortably. After sharing my genuine appreciation and delight of the tour,
we took the elevator back down. It wasn't until then the
good colonel mentioned the elevator's age and...risk...involved taking it.
The general public isn't allowed on it. In exaggerated shock and wide eyes, I
look at him and say, "NOW you tell me!!" along with a friendly nudge of my elbow
to which we both laugh loudly. But I swear, as soon as I stepped
out of the elevator, I crossed myself in mock Catholic style and there was
indeed a high level maintenance man standing just outside looking all serious and nervous.
He saw my little performance and quickly turned 180 to let out this explosive laugh and tried to hide it.
All in good fun, but truly worth visiting for those interested in such matters. |
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oatmeal
Joined: 26 Nov 2013
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:17 am Post subject: |
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it means the website has been active since 2006 lol.
hope that clears it up  |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Or that the current command (as in the unit) had been activated then. The US Army reorganizes units from time to time. |
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