Korean Job Discussion Forums

[ChrisPK]

Hello,

Does anyone happen to know the salary range for these teaching positions at the two universities? They are taking apps right now. Their application process is quite complex, so I don't even want to bother if their salary is not significantly higher than what I currently make at my current U.


Non-tenure track foreign faculty position at Kyunghee University-School of Global Communication
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=61919

Full-time College English teaching position at Ewha Women's U-English Program Office.
https://faculty.ewha.ac.kr/eureka/ea/ea/pf/EAPFBoardController.do?method=fildlist&strDiv=1&lang=e

Thanks,
Chris

[Stan Rogers]

I would only consider a job there is they offered full vacations. As I have heard they don't.

Don't know much about Kyunghee.

Ewha salary is good but they have never offered housing so you can subtract that from the total amount. The job there is probably more work than what you are doing now, so you can factor that into your formula too.

[edwardcatflap]

So I wonder what stage of the incredibly tortuous application process do they deign to tell you what the salary is. I applied for a part time job here once where the salary wasn't listed. I made an enquiry, they told me to send my CV, I spent time updating it, I sent my CV, they asked me what my minimum salary would be, I told them, I never heard from them again. A big waste of time all round.

[Hatcher]

I worked at both places. Neither provide housing while SNU, which I dont suggest, does.

Both are organized and professional.

The Ewha job calls for a PhD.... how many have that?

[PRagic]

Nope, the Ewha job calls for an MA or higher. IF someone applied with a Ph.D., they'd trump.

[ChrisPK]

[ChrisPK]

[PRagic]

So just check out their websites and contact a current teacher. If you are professional, well qualified, and explain your concerns about the salary and conditions (e.g. you don't want to waste their time or yours if the job doesn't pay more than you're making now or provides fewer vacation days), most people will be forthcoming. Depends on how you handle it and who you choose to contact.

But you should know that even for tenure track slots where Ph.D.s are applying it's normal to not divulge salary ranges from the get go. There are very tight networks, though, so you can usually get a ballpark guesstimate before going too far. Truth be told, though, in this market, junior scholars don't bother asking right away; it's something to just get an offer!

[GENO123]

They are both competitive Korean University jobs. Those kinds of jobs are not worth what they put their teachers through. Never.

[Stan Rogers]

[GENO123]

Teaching at a big famous Korean University is like being very sick for 8 months of the year. And working at one will make you sick for real.

[jleblanc]

[GENO123]

[liveinkorea316]

Agreed. One should only take a job at one of those places if they stumble across it and it is literally handed to them by someone they know. You know word of mouth, last minute sort of thing. Also after negotiating a good salary.

The other option is someone on their first time who could not find ANY other job openings and wanted to self torture themselves for a year or two.

Koreans rate these schools highly but no one else in the world does. It's not the same as being offered a job at the number one school in a country in Europe where the institutions are run internally with acadmeic integrity.

Nope. To ALL outsiders Ehwa and SNU is exactly the same as the 110th ranked private uni here. Difference is at many other private unis you stil get alot of the same bull €&%☆ but in smaller doses and maybe longer holidays.

But if you're pretentious you may like to work for a pretentious outfit.

[jackson7]