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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stain wrote:
That's wonderful. I was hoping someone still did.


I think Lao Tsu was the top dog (2500 years ago Chinese philosopher). That guy nailed the nature of everything just lounging around philosophizing on shit. Even in my most brilliant philosophizing moments I can't touch that guy. The legend goes that Confucius came over for cookies and milk one day and Lau Tsu philosophically schooled his ass.
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Stain



Joined: 08 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
Stain wrote:
That's wonderful. I was hoping someone still did.


I think Lao Tsu was the top dog (2500 years ago Chinese philosopher). That guy nailed the nature of everything just lounging around philosophizing on shit. Even in my most brilliant philosophizing moments I can't touch that guy. The legend goes that Confucius came over for cookies and milk one day and Lau Tsu philosophically schooled his ass.


Well, like I always say, stop thinking and end your problems.
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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stain wrote:

Well, like I always say, stop thinking and end your problems.


No idea what that means. Is this philosophical speak for "problems are in your mind" and if you don't think you don't have problems?
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Stain



Joined: 08 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
Stain wrote:

Well, like I always say, stop thinking and end your problems.


No idea what that means. Is this philosophical speak for "problems are in your mind" and if you don't think you don't have problems?


It's a quote from Lao Tsu. I don't know what it means, either.
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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stain wrote:
KimchiNinja wrote:
Stain wrote:

Well, like I always say, stop thinking and end your problems.


No idea what that means. Is this philosophical speak for "problems are in your mind" and if you don't think you don't have problems?


It's a quote from Lao Tsu. I don't know what it means, either.


Ah, now I know which verse you are talking about!

One of the problems with 2500 year old scrolls is translating that ancient language. There are many translations. Personally I like Red Pine's translation "get rid of learning and problems will vanish". Although getting rid of excess thinking fits too.

Lao Tsu wrote a lot about people in their natural state and compared them to an "uncarved block"; when people are simple they are whole and at peace. But when they venture into the world and get their heads filled with "knowledge" they become troubled.
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Stain



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
Stain wrote:
KimchiNinja wrote:
Stain wrote:

Well, like I always say, stop thinking and end your problems.


No idea what that means. Is this philosophical speak for "problems are in your mind" and if you don't think you don't have problems?


It's a quote from Lao Tsu. I don't know what it means, either.


Ah, now I know which verse you are talking about!

One of the problems with 2500 year old scrolls is translating that ancient language. There are many translations. Personally I like Red Pine's translation "get rid of learning and problems will vanish". Although getting rid of excess thinking fits too.

Lao Tsu wrote a lot about people in their natural state and compared them to an "uncarved block"; when people are simple they are whole and at peace. But when they venture into the world and get their heads filled with "knowledge" they become troubled.


I like Red Pine's translation too.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about this for philosophical fodder?
http://prabhupadabooks.com/classes/bg/13/6-7/montreal/october/25/1968

Actually I wrote a long paragraph elaborating on my understanding of transcendental knowledge, but it got lost in cyber space (so you guys/gals lucked out ...)
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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that basically sounds like a different way of saying the same thing...except Lao Tsu used less words. Wink
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not familiar with the teachings of Lao Tzu, I did a Google search and found that back in the 60's a Jewish comedian in the Catskills added Lao Tzu to his name (i.e. Larry Lao Tzu) in order to capitalize on the trendy popularity of Eastern philosophies/religions... http://www.indiadivine.org/content/topic/997825-larry-lao-tzu/
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