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Dani81
Joined: 28 Dec 2012
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 Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:28 am Post subject: how likely be accepted by EPIK with husband as dependent??? |
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| I know similar issues have been addressed before but I'm trying to get opinions from those who've experienced the application process and are now working- how will EPIK view a married applicant where only one spouse will teach. My qualifications are minimum (TEFL), B.S degree, and I'm not sure if that would be a "red flag" to EPIK if I applied with a dependent? We don't mind the single housing (we've done worse!) and are willing to take any location they offer. Plus my husband is a web developer that can work remotely. He considered the possibility of teaching but, 5 years ago had a DUI charge which he could have, but didn't get expunged from his record- so teaching is not an option for him unless he gets it off his record now. How likely, or unlikely, am I to be selected if I apply with husband as my dependent? Are Hagwons more forgiving? |
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Guajiro
Joined: 04 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:21 am Post subject: Re: how likely be accepted by EPIK with husband as dependent |
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| Dani81 wrote: |
| I know similar issues have been addressed before but I'm trying to get opinions from those who've experienced the application process and are now working- how will EPIK view a married applicant where only one spouse will teach. My qualifications are minimum (TEFL), B.S degree, and I'm not sure if that would be a "red flag" to EPIK if I applied with a dependent? We don't mind the single housing (we've done worse!) and are willing to take any location they offer. Plus my husband is a web developer that can work remotely. He considered the possibility of teaching but, 5 years ago had a DUI charge which he could have, but didn't get expunged from his record- so teaching is not an option for him unless he gets it off his record now. How likely, or unlikely, am I to be selected if I apply with husband as my dependent? Are Hagwons more forgiving? |
Not likely. I think they only work with married couples if both will teach. China's calling! |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: how likely be accepted by EPIK with husband as dependent |
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| Guajiro wrote: |
| Dani81 wrote: |
| I know similar issues have been addressed before but I'm trying to get opinions from those who've experienced the application process and are now working- how will EPIK view a married applicant where only one spouse will teach. My qualifications are minimum (TEFL), B.S degree, and I'm not sure if that would be a "red flag" to EPIK if I applied with a dependent? We don't mind the single housing (we've done worse!) and are willing to take any location they offer. Plus my husband is a web developer that can work remotely. He considered the possibility of teaching but, 5 years ago had a DUI charge which he could have, but didn't get expunged from his record- so teaching is not an option for him unless he gets it off his record now. How likely, or unlikely, am I to be selected if I apply with husband as my dependent? Are Hagwons more forgiving? |
Not likely. I think they only work with married couples if both will teach. China's calling! |
Plenty of SAers come over here with their whole families. Sometimes they both work, sometimes, just one works. Find a rural area and they'll prob be less picky. |
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wanderkind
Joined: 01 Jan 2012
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: how likely be accepted by EPIK with husband as dependent |
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| Dani81 wrote: |
| I know similar issues have been addressed before but I'm trying to get opinions from those who've experienced the application process and are now working- how will EPIK view a married applicant where only one spouse will teach. My qualifications are minimum (TEFL), B.S degree, and I'm not sure if that would be a "red flag" to EPIK if I applied with a dependent? We don't mind the single housing (we've done worse!) and are willing to take any location they offer. Plus my husband is a web developer that can work remotely. He considered the possibility of teaching but, 5 years ago had a DUI charge which he could have, but didn't get expunged from his record- so teaching is not an option for him unless he gets it off his record now. How likely, or unlikely, am I to be selected if I apply with husband as my dependent? Are Hagwons more forgiving? |
If it does seem like it's going to be a hassle / knock you out of the running to apply with him, I've met a number of people that have been in Korea for years with web/IT work. They just pop out and back in every time their tourist visa runs out. If you're fine to split the single housing you might just forgo mentioning your husband in the EPIK application altogether. |
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Dani81
Joined: 28 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the advice. I'm concerned with omitting information on the EPIK application. It actually asks if you are applying jointly, or bringing a dependent. If I say I am not married, then sneak him in, I'm concerned the school would find out since he would be living in their sponsored housing with me. If someone saw him coming and going, how would I explain that I had a husband all along? He has no problem with this idea or doing Visa runs but I don't want to be that dishonest. I think I may just have to give up on S. Korea. Thanks for the help anyway!!! I've started looking into Taiwan. |
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Stain
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| Your husband could still give it a shot as far as teaching in Korea. I also have a DUI on my record which went against me in 2010 but in 2011 they chose to allow it anyway. I still have not had a problem. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| Dani81 wrote: |
| Thanks for the advice. I'm concerned with omitting information on the EPIK application. It actually asks if you are applying jointly, or bringing a dependent. If I say I am not married, then sneak him in, I'm concerned the school would find out since he would be living in their sponsored housing with me. |
If you were to do that, you would likely get fired immediately when your province's/city's office of education discovers you lied on your application. |
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wanderkind
Joined: 01 Jan 2012
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Dani81 wrote: |
| Thanks for the advice. I'm concerned with omitting information on the EPIK application. It actually asks if you are applying jointly, or bringing a dependent. If I say I am not married, then sneak him in, I'm concerned the school would find out since he would be living in their sponsored housing with me. |
If you were to do that, you would likely get fired immediately when your province's/city's office of education discovers you lied on your application. |
I can understand that outcome, and Dani, I am by no means advocating lying on your application. You definitely should not omit that you're married. But to me, if your husband doesn't want to teach, you're not applying jointly. And with his own income/career he wouldn't be a dependent (my understanding of that term is that it relates to unemployed household members, i.e. homemaker spouse, children, or elderly).
But I think the important questions to ask, are:
Does your husband WANT to spend the next year teaching?
Does EPIK (officially or unofficially) prefer individuals to married couples? |
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lowpo
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| You shouldn't have a problem. I know an EPIK teacher that was hired last year and her husband came with her as a dependent. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| wanderkind wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| Dani81 wrote: |
| Thanks for the advice. I'm concerned with omitting information on the EPIK application. It actually asks if you are applying jointly, or bringing a dependent. If I say I am not married, then sneak him in, I'm concerned the school would find out since he would be living in their sponsored housing with me. |
If you were to do that, you would likely get fired immediately when your province's/city's office of education discovers you lied on your application. |
I can understand that outcome, and Dani, I am by no means advocating lying on your application. You definitely should not omit that you're married. But to me, if your husband doesn't want to teach, you're not applying jointly. And with his own income/career he wouldn't be a dependent (my understanding of that term is that it relates to unemployed household members, i.e. homemaker spouse, children, or elderly).
But I think the important questions to ask, are:
Does your husband WANT to spend the next year teaching?
Does EPIK (officially or unofficially) prefer individuals to married couples? |
As far as dependents, they might be referring to people who will later be getting a dependent visa. They might also mean anyone who is going to be living with you. Public schools get a lot of leeway in how they interpret the contracts and often aren't held to the law as strictly as hogwons.
Another possibility might be for your husband to apply for an EPIC job and simply quit after your paperwork has been done. If you do try that out, make sure that he works at a different school and that YOUR school is providing your with accommodations. His school could either provide a second accommodations or housing allowance (ask for the allowance to make it seem more legit).
Regarding hogwons, they won't care one bit who is living with you. You could bring over your parents, your siblings, your third cousins and your grandparents and stuff them all in your little shoe box apartment. As long as you report it to the building manager and pay the appropriate buildings fees then your boss won't care. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| I worked with a fellow a few years back who brought his wife and children along as dependents. It didn't seem to be a problem. |
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Guajiro
Joined: 04 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| I worked with a fellow a few years back who brought his wife and children along as dependents. It didn't seem to be a problem. |
Well, maybe it was just the public school recruiters I applied to and asked about bringing my wife and child as dependents. Recruiters do want to give themselves the best percentage of successful applicants possible. Maybe applying direct to EPIK is more successful when it comes to dependents. Or maybe it used to be easier than it is now (which is generally true for all applicants).
This is all second hand information though. Has anyone applied to EPIK with acknowledged dependents in the last 1-2 years and been accepted?
This would be valuable information. |
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