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Desire to learn low among Korean adults
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cmxc



Joined: 19 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:01 am    Post subject: Desire to learn low among Korean adults Reply with quote

Data only proves what I have always suspected-most Koreans have no real desire to learn anything.

“The reason Korean and Japanese adults are so passive toward learning is because the working hours are so long and there is a slim possibility that their studying will boost their careers,” said lead researcher Im Eon.

“People’s capacity for integrated thinking and their ability to look at problems from a novel point of view and solve them is essential to enhancing competence of society as a whole. Authorities must make efforts to boost people’s motivation to learn,” she said.

Desire to learn low among Korean adults
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20140821001065
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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're in the office 16hrs a day 6-7 days a week, ain't nobody got time for learning.
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cabeza



Joined: 29 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I worked in Japan, the first school I worked at was an Eikaiwa (converstion school) in the northern suburbs of Tokyo.
Of the 200 or so students, i'd say about 70% of them were retirees. The rest were bored housewives. There was a much stronger desire among adults to learn English, not for a job or test, but just for something to do or for planned travel.

I asked my wife why her mother here in Korea doesnt take a class, a language or something like that and from what I was told, the idea of someone over 60 learning a new language would be seen as ludicrous.

Of course a lot of old people here arent in the economic situation to be taking language lessons, but still, it seems a lot of them are just sitting around in those outdoor gazebo things waiting to die.
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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cabeza wrote:
When I worked in Japan, the first school I worked at was an Eikaiwa (converstion school) in the northern suburbs of Tokyo.
Of the 200 or so students, i'd say about 70% of them were retirees. The rest were bored housewives. There was a much stronger desire among adults to learn English, not for a job or test, but just for something to do or for planned travel.

I asked my wife why her mother here in Korea doesnt take a class, a language or something like that and from what I was told, the idea of someone over 60 learning a new language would be seen as ludicrous.

Of course a lot of old people here arent in the economic situation to be taking language lessons, but still, it seems a lot of them are just sitting around in those outdoor gazebo things waiting to die.


I don't understand, is there something wrong with a retiree relaxing all day?

The retiree that has nothing better to do so they take an English class is living a more fulfilling life than the retiree that relaxes outside all day?
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cabeza



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because purpose is important in life. It doesnt have to be a language. It could be some other activity.
The over 60 suicide rate here shows that something isnt right.
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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cabeza wrote:
Because purpose is important in life. It doesnt have to be a language. It could be some other activity.
The over 60 suicide rate here shows that something isnt right.


Sitting around all day and talking is an activity.

I doubt the 60 and over suicide rate includes many retirees that live a comfortable retired lifestyle.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that shocking. Let me remind people that most people in the world are lucky enough to put food in their bellies. And in industrialized countries, maybe on average 30% (tops) actually have some kind of 4-year degree, and that's a lot.

Anyways, my desire to learn ended the day I got my degree. I'm sure if you talk to most adults, they don't want to learn, they just want a nice comfy life.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Not born to be a teacher, I think," Stephen replied. "A learner rather."

Ulysses
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Desire to learn low among Korean adults Reply with quote

cmxc wrote:

“People’s capacity for integrated thinking and their ability to look at problems from a novel point of view and solve them is essential to enhancing competence of society as a whole. Authorities must make efforts to boost people’s motivation to learn,” she said.


I don't get why every thing here needs to be directed by the authorities. If the people don't want to learn, they don't want to learn. It's not the government's place to step in and motivate them.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Desire to learn low among Korean adults Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
cmxc wrote:

“People’s capacity for integrated thinking and their ability to look at problems from a novel point of view and solve them is essential to enhancing competence of society as a whole. Authorities must make efforts to boost people’s motivation to learn,” she said.


I don't get why every thing here needs to be directed by the authorities. If the people don't want to learn, they don't want to learn. It's not the government's place to step in and motivate them.

"This is Korea."

Where it's always somebody else's job to get things done, usually the government's.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

optik404 wrote:
If you're in the office 16hrs a day 6-7 days a week, ain't nobody got time for learning.


For the past 13 years I've taught in those companies - depending on the company, they often offer a lot of in-house classes (languages, art, fitness, etc...)

16 hours a day, as we all know, does not really tell the true tale.
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Enduro



Joined: 26 Apr 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
optik404 wrote:
If you're in the office 16hrs a day 6-7 days a week, ain't nobody got time for learning.


For the past 13 years I've taught in those companies - depending on the company, they often offer a lot of in-house classes (languages, art, fitness, etc...)

16 hours a day, as we all know, does not really tell the true tale.


The company I work at requires employees to pass an English proficiency test in order to receive a promotion.
If they score high enough, they are eligible for a 4 year stint at one of the many overseas plants.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course if Koreans did spend more time learning, people would take them to task for paying more attention to courses and learning than spending time with their kids or relaxing.
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Enduro



Joined: 26 Apr 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Of course if Koreans did spend more time learning, people would take them to task for paying more attention to courses and learning than spending time with their kids or relaxing.


Because everyone is out to get those poor Koreans... Rolling Eyes
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Savant



Joined: 25 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Of course if Koreans did spend more time learning, people would take them to task for paying more attention to courses and learning than spending time with their kids or relaxing.


If you need to work obsessively long unproductive hours every week you should not be having children for the sake of carrying on the family's line unless you need those children to help you tend the fields in later life.
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